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Great idea, but needs tech stack info also.

by epicureanideal 5y ago

drodgers 5y ago
Why does the tech stack matter?
- rsj_hn 5y ago
  if you believe that, say, C++ devs earn more than JS devs, it would matter. If you aren't sure and want to find out, it would also matter.
  - bspear 5y ago
    Do specific tech stacks have more earning power though? Which ones?
    - vineyardmike 5y ago
      Literally the whole point of this thread is that it’s not known because (this) data doesn’t include it.
    - wongarsu 5y ago
      There are a lot of ways to look at it. I think [1] is one of the better attempts and would suggest that the spread is much bigger for average jobs than for the highest paying positions, and that e.g. Scala, Rust, Perl or Go will earn you more money than Dart, JavaScript, PHP or Java. Also apparently jobs with DynamoDB pay almost twice as good on average (median) as jobs with Firebase; and Postgres or MSSQL pays better than MySQL or Oracle. 1: https://stribny.name/blog/salaries-by-language/ https://stribny.name/blog/salaries-by-language/
- epicureanideal 5y ago
  How else would someone know if the company has a stack that is compatible with their own skill set?
- democracy 5y ago
  ... well, we would like to make sure you can deliver value ASAP, I fail to see why it can be any different?
- lbrito 5y ago
  How does it not matter? Do you equally enjoy working with every technology? Would you not care if you had to use a different operating system than whatever you've been using, let alone languages?
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
They could add a link to / integration with https://stackshare.io/ https://stackshare.io/
EnKopVand 5y ago
Why do you think the tech stack matters? Is it because you want to compare yourself to other people working with X, or because you want to pursue the best paying technologies? I don’t think either should matter, you’re paid for a job function not the tools you use, but the latter is a trap on my opinion. I’m turning 40 this year and as such an approaching the sort of midway of my career and in my anecdotal experience you’re never paid for the tech stack. I’ve worked in startups, enterprise and startups growing into enterprises with lucrative employee stock options. I’ve worked with everything dotnet, Python, C++, RPA-tooling, Java, COBOL, SharePoint and SAP, JavaScript and now TypeScript. I’ve worked with every sort of operations setup from in-house to cloud and I very where in between. I’ve worked as a developer, then project/actual manager then enterprise architect and now developer again. The only things that I have done that had any real impact on my pay grade level was changing jobs and doing indirect negotiations. You need to deliver solutions, you need to show the business the impact of those solutions and you need to make sure your employers know that they aren’t the only company in town who knows about the business value you being to the table. I also encourage sharing your pay information with your peers. I’ve been fortunate enough to land some nice contracts, but because I’ve shared info with my peers I know of at least two people who went to the negotiation table where they managed to get the company to at least match my pay. But tech stack? As long as it’s a sellers market, I’d encourage you to get good with something that is in demand that you also happen to enjoy working with. For me that is currently TypeScript front ends with node/dotnet backends that run in azure functions.
- epicureanideal 5y ago
  I think the people replying to my comment misunderstand my intent. If they show the tech stack, people would be able to see if they could apply their same skills for much more money at a specific other company.
  - engmgrmgr 5y ago
    Programming language/etc. is typically not a huge factor for high paying jobs. If I’m giving you a lot of money, you’ll learn whatever you need to ASAP.

Great idea, but needs tech stack info also.

drodgers 5y ago

Why does the tech stack matter?

rsj_hn 5y ago
if you believe that, say, C++ devs earn more than JS devs, it would matter. If you aren't sure and want to find out, it would also matter.
- bspear 5y ago
  Do specific tech stacks have more earning power though? Which ones?
  - vineyardmike 5y ago
    Literally the whole point of this thread is that it’s not known because (this) data doesn’t include it.
  - wongarsu 5y ago
    There are a lot of ways to look at it. I think [1] is one of the better attempts and would suggest that the spread is much bigger for average jobs than for the highest paying positions, and that e.g. Scala, Rust, Perl or Go will earn you more money than Dart, JavaScript, PHP or Java. Also apparently jobs with DynamoDB pay almost twice as good on average (median) as jobs with Firebase; and Postgres or MSSQL pays better than MySQL or Oracle. 1: https://stribny.name/blog/salaries-by-language/ https://stribny.name/blog/salaries-by-language/
epicureanideal 5y ago
How else would someone know if the company has a stack that is compatible with their own skill set?
democracy 5y ago
... well, we would like to make sure you can deliver value ASAP, I fail to see why it can be any different?
lbrito 5y ago
How does it not matter? Do you equally enjoy working with every technology? Would you not care if you had to use a different operating system than whatever you've been using, let alone languages?

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

They could add a link to / integration with https://stackshare.io/ https://stackshare.io/

EnKopVand 5y ago

Why do you think the tech stack matters? Is it because you want to compare yourself to other people working with X, or because you want to pursue the best paying technologies? I don’t think either should matter, you’re paid for a job function not the tools you use, but the latter is a trap on my opinion. I’m turning 40 this year and as such an approaching the sort of midway of my career and in my anecdotal experience you’re never paid for the tech stack. I’ve worked in startups, enterprise and startups growing into enterprises with lucrative employee stock options. I’ve worked with everything dotnet, Python, C++, RPA-tooling, Java, COBOL, SharePoint and SAP, JavaScript and now TypeScript. I’ve worked with every sort of operations setup from in-house to cloud and I very where in between. I’ve worked as a developer, then project/actual manager then enterprise architect and now developer again. The only things that I have done that had any real impact on my pay grade level was changing jobs and doing indirect negotiations. You need to deliver solutions, you need to show the business the impact of those solutions and you need to make sure your employers know that they aren’t the only company in town who knows about the business value you being to the table. I also encourage sharing your pay information with your peers. I’ve been fortunate enough to land some nice contracts, but because I’ve shared info with my peers I know of at least two people who went to the negotiation table where they managed to get the company to at least match my pay. But tech stack? As long as it’s a sellers market, I’d encourage you to get good with something that is in demand that you also happen to enjoy working with. For me that is currently TypeScript front ends with node/dotnet backends that run in azure functions.

epicureanideal 5y ago
I think the people replying to my comment misunderstand my intent. If they show the tech stack, people would be able to see if they could apply their same skills for much more money at a specific other company.
- engmgrmgr 5y ago
  Programming language/etc. is typically not a huge factor for high paying jobs. If I’m giving you a lot of money, you’ll learn whatever you need to ASAP.