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Really the question of whether that particular sentence "The record books are clear[1], so then are we deadnaming when referring to actual events that took plac
by carapace 5y ago
Really the question of whether that particular sentence "The record books are clear[1], so then are we deadnaming when referring to actual events that took place while Bruce Jenner was competing in the Olympics?" is or is not "deadnaming" turns on the tense or temporal sense of the name "Bruce".
> We know that Caitlyn Jenner never won gold medals...
No, that's wrong. We know she did win medals when she was still a man going by the name Bruce. Changing gender didn't unwin those medals, eh? Likewise "no woman has ever won Olympic gold in men's events." is true, but she wasn't a woman when she won the medals.
> how can Caitlyn Jenner have possibly won those gold medals?
A man named Bruce won some medals and then became a woman named Caitlyn.
It really seems like you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Is this a problem you have run into in real life? "Caitlyn" and "Bruce" aren't two different humans beings, both names refer to the same person just at different times in their life. Just as a child grows into an adult and then into a old person, there is a change, but we don't consider these to be different entities, eh?
- yucky 5y ago>A man named Bruce won some medals This is exactly what I said, so I guess I don't understand the argument.