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> what ultimately matters is how people actually use it, and that is probably in an unencrypted manner I've heard criticisms about Telegram's MTProto encryptio

> what ultimately matters is how people actually use it, and that is probably in an unencrypted manner I've heard criticisms about Telegram's MTProto encryption on HN, but in my usage of Telegram nobody has ever turned on the secret chats mode enabling it anyway. Anyone privacy-conscious asks me to use Signal, Matrix, or even Threema. I have heard compliments about Telegram sticker packs though, if the other apps want more users they could consider making "cute stickers" :)

discardedrefuse 5y ago
> I have heard compliments about Telegram sticker packs though, if the other apps want more users they could consider making "cute stickers" :) You joke, but Telegram's clients have been innovating for years. Way ahead of the rest. Its packed with features and yet never feels bloated or slow. Frankly, its amazing.
- bmarquez 5y ago
  Not even a joke, I had a younger friend comment on the sticker cuteness and it never even crossed my mind that people would prefer messaging apps based on that. The Telegram client/feature set is great, and I hope Signal and competitors will improve their clients to match.
  - totetsu 5y ago
    This is why line dominates in Japan. The range of stickers is incomparable.
    - thaumasiotes 5y ago
      Oh? Wechat lets users provide their own stickers, for free or for money. I'd bet the range is competitive.
      - totetsu 5y ago
        I had to get vouched for by two people who moved from mainland China to get a wechat account, then the client took up all my free space so I deleted it.
commoner 5y ago
> I have heard compliments about Telegram sticker packs though, if the other apps want more users they could consider making "cute stickers" :) Many of Signal's sticker packs were ported from Telegram: https://signalstickers.com/?s=author%3ATelegram https://signalstickers.com/?s=author%3ATelegram
- theshrike79 5y ago
  Is "ported" another word for "stolen"?
  - commoner 5y ago
    Telegram supports importing stickers from other apps and platforms: https://core.telegram.org/stickers#importing-stickers-from-other-apps https://core.telegram.org/stickers#importing-stickers-from-o... In light of that, importing stickers from Telegram to other apps is fair game. Telegram's very brief terms of service* do not forbid users from using Telegram stickers outside of Telegram. Also, some of these stickers are recycled memes from social media and pop culture, which usually qualify for fair use when used for messaging. * https://telegram.org/tos https://telegram.org/tos
yuubi 5y ago
I don't think I've ever seen any of the stickers from the telegram company actually used in a chat. I've seen lots of stickers that people have had drawn, though, sometimes even used by the people who commissioned them.
- jcelerier 5y ago
  We have a sticker pack with the expressions of my cat and it's absolutely great
- pzone 5y ago
  Telegram puts out a lot of packs, but they're made by different artists. You may be using their packs without realizing it. Everything on the Trending tab is theirs, and it changes frequently. Here are three packs with bats that I use, all commissioned by the Telegram team. https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/MrBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/MrBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/BattyBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/BattyBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/FangBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/FangBat
Hoasi 5y ago
Cute stickers are not just a crucial part of the conversation. Cute stickers are the conversation.

discardedrefuse 5y ago

> I have heard compliments about Telegram sticker packs though, if the other apps want more users they could consider making "cute stickers" :) You joke, but Telegram's clients have been innovating for years. Way ahead of the rest. Its packed with features and yet never feels bloated or slow. Frankly, its amazing.

bmarquez 5y ago
Not even a joke, I had a younger friend comment on the sticker cuteness and it never even crossed my mind that people would prefer messaging apps based on that. The Telegram client/feature set is great, and I hope Signal and competitors will improve their clients to match.
- totetsu 5y ago
  This is why line dominates in Japan. The range of stickers is incomparable.
  - thaumasiotes 5y ago
    Oh? Wechat lets users provide their own stickers, for free or for money. I'd bet the range is competitive.
    - totetsu 5y ago
      I had to get vouched for by two people who moved from mainland China to get a wechat account, then the client took up all my free space so I deleted it.

commoner 5y ago

> I have heard compliments about Telegram sticker packs though, if the other apps want more users they could consider making "cute stickers" :) Many of Signal's sticker packs were ported from Telegram: https://signalstickers.com/?s=author%3ATelegram https://signalstickers.com/?s=author%3ATelegram

theshrike79 5y ago
Is "ported" another word for "stolen"?
- commoner 5y ago
  Telegram supports importing stickers from other apps and platforms: https://core.telegram.org/stickers#importing-stickers-from-other-apps https://core.telegram.org/stickers#importing-stickers-from-o... In light of that, importing stickers from Telegram to other apps is fair game. Telegram's very brief terms of service* do not forbid users from using Telegram stickers outside of Telegram. Also, some of these stickers are recycled memes from social media and pop culture, which usually qualify for fair use when used for messaging. * https://telegram.org/tos https://telegram.org/tos

yuubi 5y ago

I don't think I've ever seen any of the stickers from the telegram company actually used in a chat. I've seen lots of stickers that people have had drawn, though, sometimes even used by the people who commissioned them.

jcelerier 5y ago
We have a sticker pack with the expressions of my cat and it's absolutely great
pzone 5y ago
Telegram puts out a lot of packs, but they're made by different artists. You may be using their packs without realizing it. Everything on the Trending tab is theirs, and it changes frequently. Here are three packs with bats that I use, all commissioned by the Telegram team. https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/MrBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/MrBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/BattyBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/BattyBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/FangBat https://tlgrm.eu/stickers/FangBat

Hoasi 5y ago

Cute stickers are not just a crucial part of the conversation. Cute stickers are the conversation.