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As a driver in the beta program, unless there is a lot of clearance I generally take over when passing a bike. Not so much because I don't trust the software, b

by jws 5y ago

As a driver in the beta program, unless there is a lot of clearance I generally take over when passing a bike. Not so much because I don't trust the software, but because I don't trust the bicyclist! Around here none of them signal. They appear to assume that you recognized the 250ms glance under their armpit they made two seconds ago as a formal and legally binding declaration of intent and just swerve across the non-bike lane to make their left while running the stop sign. (Old suburban smallish grid blocks with >50% stop sign coverage, so I guess it makes them grumpy.) Also, a plea to other drivers… Please! Stay off the bumper of Teslas. The software is generally cautious and gets spooked. It rapidly decelerates a couple miles per hour in preparation for a full on evasion, which wouldn't be a problem for a driver with a sane following distance, but if you are close enough to angrily look down at my speed limit driving head through my glass roof things could get a little awkward.

idontknowifican 5y ago
can u imagine telling other people to drive differently so your car works?
- they4kman 5y ago
  I do that a lot already, in my dumb car.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  Even before self-driving cars, you've always been supposed to leave enough room that you won't rear-end the car in front of you if it suddenly brakes hard.
cassianoleal 5y ago
> Around here none of them signal It is not always safe to remove one hand from the handlebar to signal. In fact, in a lot of urban spaces, it's downright dangerous given the bad quality of the streets. Another reason why cyclists don't signal is when they notice a car too close or too aggressive. In this situation, it's best to have full control of the bike. The cyclist is not a threat to your life. At most to the exterior of your car. You are a threat to their life. They don't want you to crash on them or the other way around. Give them space and it should be fine.
ecf 5y ago
Do you go around posting every anecdote you have about bad drivers too?

by jws 5y ago

idontknowifican 5y ago

can u imagine telling other people to drive differently so your car works?

they4kman 5y ago
I do that a lot already, in my dumb car.
josephcsible 5y ago
Even before self-driving cars, you've always been supposed to leave enough room that you won't rear-end the car in front of you if it suddenly brakes hard.

cassianoleal 5y ago

> Around here none of them signal It is not always safe to remove one hand from the handlebar to signal. In fact, in a lot of urban spaces, it's downright dangerous given the bad quality of the streets. Another reason why cyclists don't signal is when they notice a car too close or too aggressive. In this situation, it's best to have full control of the bike. The cyclist is not a threat to your life. At most to the exterior of your car. You are a threat to their life. They don't want you to crash on them or the other way around. Give them space and it should be fine.

ecf 5y ago

Do you go around posting every anecdote you have about bad drivers too?