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The predicted route line was straight for the first part of the clip (but still wiggling around).. and then it suddenly veers off / disappears for no discernibl

The predicted route line was straight for the first part of the clip (but still wiggling around).. and then it suddenly veers off / disappears for no discernible reason. It doesn't seem like the FSD planner has any "memory" of what it was trying to do just moments ago, meaning it can just randomly change its mind like it did in the clip and surprise the driver. But the only time that should happen is if there's an immediate danger that needs to be avoided. If we're going to have this awkward level 2 style self driving, it should at least be predictable, and preferably inform the driver what it wants to do well ahead of time (e.g. in this case, maybe it wanted to change lanes for an upcoming right turn..?) I would definitely not risk using this thing in a city yet..

auggierose 5y ago
I would definitely not risk using this thing ever. The world is going insane.
imoverclocked 5y ago
> I would definitely not risk using this thing in a city yet.. ... or anywhere. Highway stakes are just as deadly, just less pedestrians and bicycles. Also, things can go wrong much faster there.
- ummonk 5y ago
  The one situation where full automation makes sense is traffic jams on highways. Simple control requirements, very hard for the algorithm to catastrophically mess up (or require rapid intervention to prevent life threatening accidents), and it’s extremely boring for humans to drive manually.
  - imoverclocked 5y ago
    Yeah, but my 2017 Subaru does all but the steering with adaptive cruise control in this situation. Given that a driver needs to pay attention anyway, it's not that hard to just sit back and move the wheel a little when needed.
  - KennyBlanken 5y ago
    > very hard for the algorithm to catastrophically mess up (or require rapid intervention to prevent life threatening accidents) And yet Teslas plow into emergency vehicles stopped on the side of the road at a rate much higher than other cars.
    - mypalmike 5y ago
      Is this true? Emergency vehicles unfortunately get struck rather frequently by human drivers.
jeffbee 5y ago
The planned path on the FSD display always jumps all over the place. That's your first clue that it hasn't been developed by qualified roboticists.

auggierose 5y ago

I would definitely not risk using this thing ever. The world is going insane.

imoverclocked 5y ago

> I would definitely not risk using this thing in a city yet.. ... or anywhere. Highway stakes are just as deadly, just less pedestrians and bicycles. Also, things can go wrong much faster there.

ummonk 5y ago
The one situation where full automation makes sense is traffic jams on highways. Simple control requirements, very hard for the algorithm to catastrophically mess up (or require rapid intervention to prevent life threatening accidents), and it’s extremely boring for humans to drive manually.
- imoverclocked 5y ago
  Yeah, but my 2017 Subaru does all but the steering with adaptive cruise control in this situation. Given that a driver needs to pay attention anyway, it's not that hard to just sit back and move the wheel a little when needed.
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  > very hard for the algorithm to catastrophically mess up (or require rapid intervention to prevent life threatening accidents) And yet Teslas plow into emergency vehicles stopped on the side of the road at a rate much higher than other cars.
  - mypalmike 5y ago
    Is this true? Emergency vehicles unfortunately get struck rather frequently by human drivers.

jeffbee 5y ago

The planned path on the FSD display always jumps all over the place. That's your first clue that it hasn't been developed by qualified roboticists.