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Sure, but it'll come at $400 to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB :(

by yumraj 5y ago

dheera 5y ago
I love my $200 64GB with my Framework Laptop. Fuck Apple they should be sued for price gouging.
- dymk 5y ago
  That's not what gouging is. How's that battery life treating you?
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Did I miss something, or is RAM price somehow related to battery life? Edit: your response has literally nothing to do with the parent comment or my comment, so I'm not even going to engage with you on this.
    - dymk 5y ago
      Enjoy these recent user reviews of the Framework Laptop: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29808181 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29808181 > As has been noted time and time again, battery life is atrocious. As in unusable for even the travel time required for a three hour flight: factoring in the poor sleep, an hour at the airport, and time on the aircraft the battery is dead. Crazy for 2021/2022 - my eight year old Macbook does better. Basically, the Framework Laptop seems to hardly even fit the description of "laptop" in 2022. Certainly not comparable to a Macbook Pro if one is going to complain about price.
  - dheera 5y ago
    Battery life isn't a huge concern for me, there are outlets everywhere these days, even on planes, but user-swappable SSD and RAM are absolutely non-negotiable for me, as is the ability to run Linux natively, and actual function keys. Macs are unusable. That said if I'm not doing number crunching I can easily get through 4 hours or more and that's plenty good for my use case.
    - white_dragon88 5y ago
  - yumraj 5y ago
    Keeping aside rest of the debate, I'm genuinely curious if 6 hours vs 12 hours (just as an example, not real numbers) is really an issue for most people. I work exclusively on laptop, no external monitor and have for last 8-10 years. My laptop is almost always plugged in. I go at most 1-2 hours without it being plugged and most modern laptops have batteries that last that long. Am I in the minority who uses their laptop as such?
    - dheera 5y ago
      I'm with you, my laptop battery is mostly for public transit / Uber rides and for keeping state as I switch physical locations, I'm almost always plugged otherwise.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  > they should be sued for price gouging Price gouging laws relate to raising prices in an emergency, which is not something they've done, or for people in a monopoly position for the product, which is not Apple as there's a huge market of laptops. It's not illegal to price something higher than you'd like.

Sure, but it'll come at $400 to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB :(

by yumraj 5y ago

Sure, but it'll come at $400 to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB :(

dheera 5y ago

I love my $200 64GB with my Framework Laptop. Fuck Apple they should be sued for price gouging.

dymk 5y ago
That's not what gouging is. How's that battery life treating you?
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Did I miss something, or is RAM price somehow related to battery life? Edit: your response has literally nothing to do with the parent comment or my comment, so I'm not even going to engage with you on this.
  - dymk 5y ago
    Enjoy these recent user reviews of the Framework Laptop: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29808181 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29808181 > As has been noted time and time again, battery life is atrocious. As in unusable for even the travel time required for a three hour flight: factoring in the poor sleep, an hour at the airport, and time on the aircraft the battery is dead. Crazy for 2021/2022 - my eight year old Macbook does better. Basically, the Framework Laptop seems to hardly even fit the description of "laptop" in 2022. Certainly not comparable to a Macbook Pro if one is going to complain about price.
- dheera 5y ago
  Battery life isn't a huge concern for me, there are outlets everywhere these days, even on planes, but user-swappable SSD and RAM are absolutely non-negotiable for me, as is the ability to run Linux natively, and actual function keys. Macs are unusable. That said if I'm not doing number crunching I can easily get through 4 hours or more and that's plenty good for my use case.
  - white_dragon88 5y ago
- yumraj 5y ago
  Keeping aside rest of the debate, I'm genuinely curious if 6 hours vs 12 hours (just as an example, not real numbers) is really an issue for most people. I work exclusively on laptop, no external monitor and have for last 8-10 years. My laptop is almost always plugged in. I go at most 1-2 hours without it being plugged and most modern laptops have batteries that last that long. Am I in the minority who uses their laptop as such?
  - dheera 5y ago
    I'm with you, my laptop battery is mostly for public transit / Uber rides and for keeping state as I switch physical locations, I'm almost always plugged otherwise.
chrisseaton 5y ago
> they should be sued for price gouging Price gouging laws relate to raising prices in an emergency, which is not something they've done, or for people in a monopoly position for the product, which is not Apple as there's a huge market of laptops. It's not illegal to price something higher than you'd like.