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Yeah I feel the same way. I want wordle to be about guessing words, not constructing some max entropy string within the constraints.

bmm6o 5y ago
Sometimes it's what you need to do. If you know _IGHT, guessing the solution is not the best strategy since you get so little information each turn. You're much better off with FILMS or BLOWN, even if you know they can't be the solution.
- macintux 5y ago
  Hard mode in Wordle precludes that option; after weeks in that mode in Wordle it would never occur to me to put an entirely bogus set of numbers into this.
  - bmm6o 5y ago
    I haven't played hard mode, but i imagine part of an optimal strategy is trying not to paint yourself into a corner like that. Just the other day, i had SHA_E and knew there were more possible solutions than i had turns left. I guessed MILKY to try 3 possibilities at once.
elondaits 5y ago
I use that same strategy in Wordle. Most often my first word is SOARE and the second is MINTY… unless I got like three matches in the first word, it’s better to get extra data quickly.
- wartijn_ 5y ago
  You should give hard mode a try. That makes it a lot less repetitive and more fun.
  - gpsz 5y ago
    TIL about hard mode. That's just how I've been playing naturally; force use the found letters in subsequent guesses.
  - hvdijk 5y ago
    It's all fun until you get something like FIGHT where the last four letters are right and have to just guess from LIGHT, MIGHT, RIGHT, SIGHT, TIGHT, WIGHT, anything I might have missed, and there's no way to use any strategy and you just have to randomly guess and hope you guess right.
    - scatters 5y ago
      You can guess WARMS, which will either give you the answer (to input on the next try) or eliminate 4 of the possibilities, leaving only 2 to guess. That's a best case of 2 additional guesses and worst case of 3 (expectation of 2 1/3) which is better than your strategy, which has a best case of 1, worst case 6, expectation 3 1/2.
      - hvdijk 5y ago
        The comment I replied to started with "You should give hard mode a try." In hard mode, WARMS is not a valid followup guess.
      - PebblesRox 5y ago
        That's true for regular mode, but WARMS would be an invalid guess in hard mode once the last four letters have been established as IGHT.
    - capitainenemo 5y ago
      I can see that happening, although for some reason it hardly ever does with my usual guess strategies. I've only had one word result in a few candidates. The fact that it happened immediately and almost unavoidably in the nerdle made me think this really wasn't for me.
    - bee_rider 5y ago

bmm6o 5y ago

Sometimes it's what you need to do. If you know _IGHT, guessing the solution is not the best strategy since you get so little information each turn. You're much better off with FILMS or BLOWN, even if you know they can't be the solution.

macintux 5y ago
Hard mode in Wordle precludes that option; after weeks in that mode in Wordle it would never occur to me to put an entirely bogus set of numbers into this.
- bmm6o 5y ago
  I haven't played hard mode, but i imagine part of an optimal strategy is trying not to paint yourself into a corner like that. Just the other day, i had SHA_E and knew there were more possible solutions than i had turns left. I guessed MILKY to try 3 possibilities at once.

elondaits 5y ago

I use that same strategy in Wordle. Most often my first word is SOARE and the second is MINTY… unless I got like three matches in the first word, it’s better to get extra data quickly.

wartijn_ 5y ago
You should give hard mode a try. That makes it a lot less repetitive and more fun.
- gpsz 5y ago
  TIL about hard mode. That's just how I've been playing naturally; force use the found letters in subsequent guesses.
- hvdijk 5y ago
  It's all fun until you get something like FIGHT where the last four letters are right and have to just guess from LIGHT, MIGHT, RIGHT, SIGHT, TIGHT, WIGHT, anything I might have missed, and there's no way to use any strategy and you just have to randomly guess and hope you guess right.
  - scatters 5y ago
    You can guess WARMS, which will either give you the answer (to input on the next try) or eliminate 4 of the possibilities, leaving only 2 to guess. That's a best case of 2 additional guesses and worst case of 3 (expectation of 2 1/3) which is better than your strategy, which has a best case of 1, worst case 6, expectation 3 1/2.
    - hvdijk 5y ago
      The comment I replied to started with "You should give hard mode a try." In hard mode, WARMS is not a valid followup guess.
    - PebblesRox 5y ago
      That's true for regular mode, but WARMS would be an invalid guess in hard mode once the last four letters have been established as IGHT.
  - capitainenemo 5y ago
    I can see that happening, although for some reason it hardly ever does with my usual guess strategies. I've only had one word result in a few candidates. The fact that it happened immediately and almost unavoidably in the nerdle made me think this really wasn't for me.
  - bee_rider 5y ago