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Like what?

vkou 5y ago
A collapse of basic medical care, an attempted coup, a third of the country no longer believing that an election where their side didn't win can be legitimate... ... But it's difficult to get a person to care about a subject that they believe themselves to be capable of buying their way out of/ignoring the consequences of. Nothing matters to a nihilist, and they will smugly point out that we're all wasting our breath over nothing.
- ok123456 5y ago
  Yeah, you should probably spend less time online too.
  - vkou 5y ago
    Are you saying that these things haven't happened, or are you saying that I should not care whether my father can get an 'elective' surgery done sometime this decade? Or that the next election will be ran in a fair manner?
    - Clubber 5y ago
      I think our healthcare system sucks because it sucked before the pandemic, not because of misinformation. I remember thinking COVID would really show the gaping cracks in our healthcare system, but instead, the system blamed their deficiencies on the unvaccinated. Our healthcare system, for the population as a whole, was awful before COVID. Hospitals that weren't at peak operating (read financial) capacity were shut down all over the country, which forced their patients to go to already overcrowded hospitals. The costs are/were off the charts. I don't think misinformation was the cause of it. We've been dealing with this for over two years now, yet our healthcare system hasn't increased even temporary capacity in a meaningful way to account for it.
duxup 5y ago
Threats, misinformation about say a butterfly sanctuary? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/06/texas-butterfly-sanctuary-far-right-threats https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/06/texas-butter... These seem to have real results.
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  Something about this story seems suspicious. You know that feeling you get when a news story hits all the right notes and confirms everything you thought to be true about the evil of the other side? It is also surprisingly light on key details in a few areas: > Treviño-Wright said since the lawsuit she has faced personal threats and on one occasion, assault, by the extremist Virginia Republican congressional candidate Kimberly Lowe who visited the butterfly center last month and demanded to see “‘illegals crossing on rafts”. What was "the assault"? It doesn't give details. >In an audio recording of the visit, Lowe is heard claiming baselessly that Treviño-Wright was “OK with children being sex-trafficked, raped and murdered”. This is a rhetorical trick being misinterpreted as some baseless claim. The implication is that if you oppose The Wall, you are enabling all these things and are therfore complicit. Have you ever encountered hyperbole and pearl clutching before? In any event, I don't want to go down the road of delving into this old news story. I guess my point is that there is probably much more to this than it seems, and, isn't a good justification for policing misinformation as strongly as some people want.
  - ok123456 5y ago
    > You know that feeling you get when a news story hits all the right notes and confirms everything you thought to be true about the evil of the other side? Funny how that keeps happening! I keep getting news stories that confirm my per-existing biases that the world is mean and we need internet moderators to make it all better again.
  - duxup 5y ago
    >You know that feeling you get when a news story hits all the right notes and confirms everything you thought to be true about the evil of the other side? Honestly your first line kinda describes your theory here... I don't have much reason to think that story is fake, but if a few sentences are enough for you to just write it off I'm not sure it matters what I say. There are other stories on that issue.

Like what?

vkou 5y ago

A collapse of basic medical care, an attempted coup, a third of the country no longer believing that an election where their side didn't win can be legitimate... ... But it's difficult to get a person to care about a subject that they believe themselves to be capable of buying their way out of/ignoring the consequences of. Nothing matters to a nihilist, and they will smugly point out that we're all wasting our breath over nothing.

ok123456 5y ago
Yeah, you should probably spend less time online too.
- vkou 5y ago
  Are you saying that these things haven't happened, or are you saying that I should not care whether my father can get an 'elective' surgery done sometime this decade? Or that the next election will be ran in a fair manner?
  - Clubber 5y ago
    I think our healthcare system sucks because it sucked before the pandemic, not because of misinformation. I remember thinking COVID would really show the gaping cracks in our healthcare system, but instead, the system blamed their deficiencies on the unvaccinated. Our healthcare system, for the population as a whole, was awful before COVID. Hospitals that weren't at peak operating (read financial) capacity were shut down all over the country, which forced their patients to go to already overcrowded hospitals. The costs are/were off the charts. I don't think misinformation was the cause of it. We've been dealing with this for over two years now, yet our healthcare system hasn't increased even temporary capacity in a meaningful way to account for it.

duxup 5y ago

Threats, misinformation about say a butterfly sanctuary? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/06/texas-butterfly-sanctuary-far-right-threats https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/06/texas-butter... These seem to have real results.

BitwiseFool 5y ago
Something about this story seems suspicious. You know that feeling you get when a news story hits all the right notes and confirms everything you thought to be true about the evil of the other side? It is also surprisingly light on key details in a few areas: > Treviño-Wright said since the lawsuit she has faced personal threats and on one occasion, assault, by the extremist Virginia Republican congressional candidate Kimberly Lowe who visited the butterfly center last month and demanded to see “‘illegals crossing on rafts”. What was "the assault"? It doesn't give details. >In an audio recording of the visit, Lowe is heard claiming baselessly that Treviño-Wright was “OK with children being sex-trafficked, raped and murdered”. This is a rhetorical trick being misinterpreted as some baseless claim. The implication is that if you oppose The Wall, you are enabling all these things and are therfore complicit. Have you ever encountered hyperbole and pearl clutching before? In any event, I don't want to go down the road of delving into this old news story. I guess my point is that there is probably much more to this than it seems, and, isn't a good justification for policing misinformation as strongly as some people want.
- ok123456 5y ago
  > You know that feeling you get when a news story hits all the right notes and confirms everything you thought to be true about the evil of the other side? Funny how that keeps happening! I keep getting news stories that confirm my per-existing biases that the world is mean and we need internet moderators to make it all better again.
- duxup 5y ago
  >You know that feeling you get when a news story hits all the right notes and confirms everything you thought to be true about the evil of the other side? Honestly your first line kinda describes your theory here... I don't have much reason to think that story is fake, but if a few sentences are enough for you to just write it off I'm not sure it matters what I say. There are other stories on that issue.