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Why would someone choose this over Microsoft's Power Platform or Salesforce's platform? Interesting tool, but it seems like it doesn't have a clear audience in

by nhance 5y ago

Why would someone choose this over Microsoft's Power Platform or Salesforce's platform? Interesting tool, but it seems like it doesn't have a clear audience in mind. The end user seems to be "everybody" and that's a hard sale to make.

ziggus 5y ago
It's not only unclear at first glance who the audience is, but what the tool actually does. It seems like some kind of no-code tool at first, but then it mentions pair programming? I'm confused, and don't want to wade through a swamp of marketing text.
- hungryforcodes 5y ago
  I was confused about this too. Like how does it work? A web assembly sandbox...
- alexkern 5y ago
  We're decidedly a "low-code" or even “yes-code” tool. You use the drag-and-drop interface to design the app, while all of the app's logic is written in an in-browser text editor environment. Everything is multiplayer from day 1. It's an IDE in the style of VB6 / MS Access / FileMaker Pro, but built with modern web technologies at the foundation. We're building for early-stage technical teams and independent developers that want to reduce the iteration time on prototype -> production apps.
  - dustingetz 5y ago
    So multiplayer bubble but more industrial/data-centric, real database (operated out of band) for full data modeling power & operational scale, and use javascript to define business rules with control flow and loops?
    - alexkern 5y ago
      That's one way to describe it. :) One note: we have some lightweight persistent data stores built-in for convenience, like a key/value store. However, you're always able to build on top of your own database / API and most of our early users do.
- JediPig 5y ago
  Same thought here. Why would a person use this over salesforce, Wordpress, or the dozen other CMS systems out there? I watched the 5 minute demo, it is doing nothing complex. How many one off sites we all seen that are written by a tool that ended up not able to handle the complexity. Tools like this need a huge "never" been done before hook, and this one does not readily have it.

by nhance 5y ago

ziggus 5y ago

It's not only unclear at first glance who the audience is, but what the tool actually does. It seems like some kind of no-code tool at first, but then it mentions pair programming? I'm confused, and don't want to wade through a swamp of marketing text.

hungryforcodes 5y ago
I was confused about this too. Like how does it work? A web assembly sandbox...
alexkern 5y ago
We're decidedly a "low-code" or even “yes-code” tool. You use the drag-and-drop interface to design the app, while all of the app's logic is written in an in-browser text editor environment. Everything is multiplayer from day 1. It's an IDE in the style of VB6 / MS Access / FileMaker Pro, but built with modern web technologies at the foundation. We're building for early-stage technical teams and independent developers that want to reduce the iteration time on prototype -> production apps.
- dustingetz 5y ago
  So multiplayer bubble but more industrial/data-centric, real database (operated out of band) for full data modeling power & operational scale, and use javascript to define business rules with control flow and loops?
  - alexkern 5y ago
    That's one way to describe it. :) One note: we have some lightweight persistent data stores built-in for convenience, like a key/value store. However, you're always able to build on top of your own database / API and most of our early users do.
JediPig 5y ago
Same thought here. Why would a person use this over salesforce, Wordpress, or the dozen other CMS systems out there? I watched the 5 minute demo, it is doing nothing complex. How many one off sites we all seen that are written by a tool that ended up not able to handle the complexity. Tools like this need a huge "never" been done before hook, and this one does not readily have it.