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1. The predictable outcome has not to be the same as the stated goals. 2. The antitrust issue is that every OEM that wants to distribute Windows could be force

by narag 15y ago

1. The predictable outcome has not to be the same as the stated goals. 2. The antitrust issue is that every OEM that wants to distribute Windows could be forced to ship computers that prevents other systems to work. This could be seen as Microsoft abusing his dominant position to block competitors.

runjake 15y ago
So does the same line of reasoning in #2 apply to Apple iOS and Android devices? Why aren't people in an uproar about that? (I take that back, they are in an uproar in the Android world). If you've hung out at a WWDC in the past couple years, it's apparent Apple is looking into the same such security scheme(s) for Mac OS X. OEMs ship these computers as Windows computers. OEMs generally don't support alternative OSes on their hardware, because there hasn't been enough demand to make it worthwhile. Linux on the desktop isn't even on Microsoft's radar. That war was lost by Linux (although ironically, they may win or at least fair very well in the "post-pc" era). I'm still confused as to why Linux diehards don't just create their own (ARM-based?) desktop platform where nothing is locked down or closed source.
- rbanffy 15y ago
  > the same line of reasoning in #2 apply to Apple iOS and Android devices? They are not PCs and are not sold under the expectation they are able to run something other than what was built in. What Microsoft is trying to do is to force OEMs into creating Windows-only PCs.
  - runjake 15y ago
    There's no expectation that PCs will run anything other than Windows for the vast, vast majority of consumers, either.
- AlexandrB 15y ago
  > So does the same line of reasoning in #2 apply to Apple iOS and Android devices? Why aren't people in an uproar about that? (I take that back, they are in an uproar in the Android world). This line of reasoning doesn't apply to iOS/Android because there is more than one major player. On the other hand it's basically impossible to go into a retail chain and walk out with a PC that runs something other than Microsoft Windows (unless you're buying a Mac, but they are still only a small portion of the consumer PC market).

by narag 15y ago

runjake 15y ago

So does the same line of reasoning in #2 apply to Apple iOS and Android devices? Why aren't people in an uproar about that? (I take that back, they are in an uproar in the Android world). If you've hung out at a WWDC in the past couple years, it's apparent Apple is looking into the same such security scheme(s) for Mac OS X. OEMs ship these computers as Windows computers. OEMs generally don't support alternative OSes on their hardware, because there hasn't been enough demand to make it worthwhile. Linux on the desktop isn't even on Microsoft's radar. That war was lost by Linux (although ironically, they may win or at least fair very well in the "post-pc" era). I'm still confused as to why Linux diehards don't just create their own (ARM-based?) desktop platform where nothing is locked down or closed source.

rbanffy 15y ago
> the same line of reasoning in #2 apply to Apple iOS and Android devices? They are not PCs and are not sold under the expectation they are able to run something other than what was built in. What Microsoft is trying to do is to force OEMs into creating Windows-only PCs.
- runjake 15y ago
  There's no expectation that PCs will run anything other than Windows for the vast, vast majority of consumers, either.
AlexandrB 15y ago
> So does the same line of reasoning in #2 apply to Apple iOS and Android devices? Why aren't people in an uproar about that? (I take that back, they are in an uproar in the Android world). This line of reasoning doesn't apply to iOS/Android because there is more than one major player. On the other hand it's basically impossible to go into a retail chain and walk out with a PC that runs something other than Microsoft Windows (unless you're buying a Mac, but they are still only a small portion of the consumer PC market).