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On macOS, you get both the ribbon and the hierarchical menu. Heaven help you if trying to navigate the "ribbon" on an iPhone though. That said, I actually do

On macOS, you get both the ribbon and the hierarchical menu. Heaven help you if trying to navigate the "ribbon" on an iPhone though. That said, I actually do like the simplified ribbon on Office for the web - once you figure out that it too is different. I do kind of have a bone to pick about complaining about change for its own sake though. You could say the same -- all the earlier resources are useless - about the move from Windows NT to XP to 7 to 10 to 11 (we'll pretend 8 doesn't exist) when buying a new computer. Why not complain that your Active Desktop is missing, the desktop sidebar from Vista was a poor imitation and gone in just one release, Netscape Suite doesn't load webpages due to SSL errors and you can't publish webpages from your web browser like you used to, and you have to double-click folders to open them instead of single-clicking them like back in the old days of Windows ME? Sometimes change is just change and you have to adapt to the times.

quanticle 5y ago
Why not complain that your Active Desktop is missing, the desktop sidebar from Vista was a poor imitation and gone in just one release, Netscape Suite doesn't load webpages due to SSL errors and you can't publish webpages from your web browser like you used to, and you have to double-click folders to open them instead of single-clicking them like back in the old days of Windows ME? I can and I do! Sometimes change is just change and you have to adapt to the times. That is exactly the kind of fatalistic attitude Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Apple, et. al. want you to have. "Oh there's nothing that can be done." "Change is inevitable." "I just need to go along and accept whatever scraps my corporate overlords deign to throw in my direction." Corporations aren't natural phenomenona. They're not the sun, nor are they moon, nor are they the wind. They are composed of people, and those people can be persuaded to make different decisions if there is a sufficient outcry. Just look at Apple's proposal to enable client-side scanning for objectionable content. There was a huge outcry and Apple walked back its plans as a result. In the case of the Ribbon, I think one of the factors leading to the success of Google Docs is the fact that it has the old-school hierarchical menu system that Office 2003 had, but which Microsoft refactored into the Ribbon with Office 2007. In a way, Google Docs was more familiar to Word users than Word itself, making it easy to switch.

quanticle 5y ago

Why not complain that your Active Desktop is missing, the desktop sidebar from Vista was a poor imitation and gone in just one release, Netscape Suite doesn't load webpages due to SSL errors and you can't publish webpages from your web browser like you used to, and you have to double-click folders to open them instead of single-clicking them like back in the old days of Windows ME? I can and I do! Sometimes change is just change and you have to adapt to the times. That is exactly the kind of fatalistic attitude Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Apple, et. al. want you to have. "Oh there's nothing that can be done." "Change is inevitable." "I just need to go along and accept whatever scraps my corporate overlords deign to throw in my direction." Corporations aren't natural phenomenona. They're not the sun, nor are they moon, nor are they the wind. They are composed of people, and those people can be persuaded to make different decisions if there is a sufficient outcry. Just look at Apple's proposal to enable client-side scanning for objectionable content. There was a huge outcry and Apple walked back its plans as a result. In the case of the Ribbon, I think one of the factors leading to the success of Google Docs is the fact that it has the old-school hierarchical menu system that Office 2003 had, but which Microsoft refactored into the Ribbon with Office 2007. In a way, Google Docs was more familiar to Word users than Word itself, making it easy to switch.