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> Peloton has pretty expensive products You can buy a set of kettlebells up to 24kg, a barbell, and enough plates to make 315 lbs for the cost of a Peloton. Co

> Peloton has pretty expensive products You can buy a set of kettlebells up to 24kg, a barbell, and enough plates to make 315 lbs for the cost of a Peloton. Completely different crowd, though.

potatolicious 5y ago
Yeah, but even within Peloton's own sphere competition is fierce and IMO some of the biggest "pros" of Peloton are liabilities. The customer base also includes me - I ended up getting an exercise bike during the pandemic, was in the price range for a Peloton (expensive as it may be), but ended up not choosing the Peloton. The biggest factor for me is that I didn't want to tie an expensive bike (which will last for many years) to the upgrade cycle of a consumer electronics device. Which is to say, I wanted to bring-my-own-tablet, knowing that I'd want to upgrade the screen far more often than I'd ever want to upgrade the bike. The tight integration here is actually - at least for me - a downside. There are also a plethora of subscription services now that do on-demand/livestreamed classes that aren't Peloton, and bringing your own tablet allows you freedom to choose any of them. Oddly enough - subscribing to Peloton's own content on an iPad is cheaper than doing so via their own bike, which further compromises the appeal of their hardware. I ultimately got a Bluetooth-enabled bike that didn't have any screen at all, but instead has a large tablet holder. Throwing my iPad on it and putting in my AirPods has been very usable.
mdoms 5y ago
How is a bunch of weight equipment relevant to a discussion on cardio equipment?
- TillE 5y ago
  There's this internet nerd thing which always implicitly defines "fitness" as 99% weightlifting, which has always been bizarre to me. Those weights do pretty much nothing for your cardiovascular health, unless you've somehow got some crazy 40+ minute routine.
  - dehrmann 5y ago
    Have you ever done interval training with kettlebells? You can be left catching your breath, even though your feed never moved.
    - bagacrap 5y ago
      respiration rate is not the same as heart rate although they trend in the same direction. I say this because I've worn a heart rate strap during all sorts of exercise and kettlebells do not elevate heart rate like cardio does, even though they feel like they should. That said, is intense cardio really that important for health? moderate cardio seems to give most of the longevity benefits.
AlwaysRock 5y ago
Right. And you'd need a fairly large area to take advantage of those items. It's easy to store away some kettlebells but once you get a bar and a bench you really need a dedicated workout space. A bike is much easier to roll in and out of the way. In my last apartment a bike was feasible even if it wasnt ideal for the space. Any type of barbell was too large.
biztos 5y ago
> Completely different crowd, though. I find these differences fascinating. I used to work out at one of the top bodybuilding gyms in Europe (I’m not a bodybuilder but my trainer was) — and none of the hardcore members would have been caught dead swinging a kettlebell. Now I work out at a more corporate gym and am trying to learn to stop worrying and love the functional because my trainer is in fact a professional and I pay to learn from him. But I totally give the side-eye to the flimsy TechnoGym gear. I’m pretty sure that for any given exercise trend, you will find purists and haters and they will be outspoken. Just like in tech, but don’t tell my PT!
- spacemadness 5y ago
  It goes both ways. Pure bodybuilders scoff at anything that doesn’t help sculpt, but I think there’s equal derision in the functional and strength training crowd to folks that only focus on pure bodybuilding. Personally I say do what makes you happy and not worry what the obsessive purists think. I always find the rigid thinking in fitness crowds to be very off putting.

> Peloton has pretty expensive products You can buy a set of kettlebells up to 24kg, a barbell, and enough plates to make 315 lbs for the cost of a Peloton. Completely different crowd, though.

potatolicious 5y ago

Yeah, but even within Peloton's own sphere competition is fierce and IMO some of the biggest "pros" of Peloton are liabilities. The customer base also includes me - I ended up getting an exercise bike during the pandemic, was in the price range for a Peloton (expensive as it may be), but ended up not choosing the Peloton. The biggest factor for me is that I didn't want to tie an expensive bike (which will last for many years) to the upgrade cycle of a consumer electronics device. Which is to say, I wanted to bring-my-own-tablet, knowing that I'd want to upgrade the screen far more often than I'd ever want to upgrade the bike. The tight integration here is actually - at least for me - a downside. There are also a plethora of subscription services now that do on-demand/livestreamed classes that aren't Peloton, and bringing your own tablet allows you freedom to choose any of them. Oddly enough - subscribing to Peloton's own content on an iPad is cheaper than doing so via their own bike, which further compromises the appeal of their hardware. I ultimately got a Bluetooth-enabled bike that didn't have any screen at all, but instead has a large tablet holder. Throwing my iPad on it and putting in my AirPods has been very usable.

mdoms 5y ago

How is a bunch of weight equipment relevant to a discussion on cardio equipment?

TillE 5y ago
There's this internet nerd thing which always implicitly defines "fitness" as 99% weightlifting, which has always been bizarre to me. Those weights do pretty much nothing for your cardiovascular health, unless you've somehow got some crazy 40+ minute routine.
- dehrmann 5y ago
  Have you ever done interval training with kettlebells? You can be left catching your breath, even though your feed never moved.
  - bagacrap 5y ago
    respiration rate is not the same as heart rate although they trend in the same direction. I say this because I've worn a heart rate strap during all sorts of exercise and kettlebells do not elevate heart rate like cardio does, even though they feel like they should. That said, is intense cardio really that important for health? moderate cardio seems to give most of the longevity benefits.

AlwaysRock 5y ago

Right. And you'd need a fairly large area to take advantage of those items. It's easy to store away some kettlebells but once you get a bar and a bench you really need a dedicated workout space. A bike is much easier to roll in and out of the way. In my last apartment a bike was feasible even if it wasnt ideal for the space. Any type of barbell was too large.

biztos 5y ago

> Completely different crowd, though. I find these differences fascinating. I used to work out at one of the top bodybuilding gyms in Europe (I’m not a bodybuilder but my trainer was) — and none of the hardcore members would have been caught dead swinging a kettlebell. Now I work out at a more corporate gym and am trying to learn to stop worrying and love the functional because my trainer is in fact a professional and I pay to learn from him. But I totally give the side-eye to the flimsy TechnoGym gear. I’m pretty sure that for any given exercise trend, you will find purists and haters and they will be outspoken. Just like in tech, but don’t tell my PT!

spacemadness 5y ago
It goes both ways. Pure bodybuilders scoff at anything that doesn’t help sculpt, but I think there’s equal derision in the functional and strength training crowd to folks that only focus on pure bodybuilding. Personally I say do what makes you happy and not worry what the obsessive purists think. I always find the rigid thinking in fitness crowds to be very off putting.