Right, but it's so easy to comment on the internet "if only they could reduce the price," as if that's not something TSMC and Intel literally hire engineers for

Right, but it's so easy to comment on the internet "if only they could reduce the price," as if that's not something TSMC and Intel literally hire engineers for to do whatever they can. (Yes, ASML builds the machines in the end, but they have a very tight relationship with their customers and their needs, to the degree it is almost a co-engineering job.)