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> "refuse to put money into the future of U.S. engineering" What are you talking about? https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education/highered/higher-ed-o

> "refuse to put money into the future of U.S. engineering" What are you talking about? https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education/highered/higher-ed-overview.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education/highered/h... https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education/highered/university-research-programs.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education/highered/u... https://research.tsmc.com/english/collaborations/academic/university-centers.html https://research.tsmc.com/english/collaborations/academic/un... They are throwing money wherever they can find an audience. > "Startups for chip tech is a joke." Last time I checked, there was a startup called SiFive in the US from a bunch of UC Berkeley professors which successfully had its founders invent a whole new instruction set, RISC-V, a compiler for it, and are now building the highest-performing RISC-V chips on the market. https://www.sifive.com/ https://www.sifive.com/ > "can't just pick up a tutorial through Google and use a framework to make your product" Because Chips are extremely hard to make and engineer and there are things in this world that can't be boiled down to an internet tutorial. Imagine if we had "Building a Stealth Bomber" as an online course. Or even "Building a SpaceX Rocket" as a course. Chipmaking is more expensive than designing a rocket. This completely ignores the unbelievable difficulty of chipmaking and tries to reduce it to a CRUD application. > "We need to tax these behemoths and put that into the education and tooling of people." OK, by your own admission there is a ton of industry-specific knowledge. As linked above, fabs are trying to get into universities where they can, but finding qualified people is difficult. I don't know how taxation would help solve this problem in any way, because government is typically even less efficient at teaching domain-specific knowledge than industry.

jimbob45 5y ago
Intel heavily funds and influences the curriculum at Oregon State as well.
devwastaken 5y ago
Marketing. Unless you have receipts in hand Intel is not giving out money. They selectively choose specific institutions of where they draw from a pool of some graduates. The problem we find ourselves in is that we have no competition. If Intel is the only one funding, at very specific institutions, for their own gain, that's not competition. You need competition to innovate. You need a lot of money and equipment to learn. Intel is not putting that in the hands of any institution they don't control. I'm saying that you can't make a startup for chips out of nowhere like you can software startups. We have to have the underlying education first. The U.S. does not have this, and continues to fall over itself because tech companies have significant Democrat control that won't tax them.

jimbob45 5y ago

Intel heavily funds and influences the curriculum at Oregon State as well.

devwastaken 5y ago

Marketing. Unless you have receipts in hand Intel is not giving out money. They selectively choose specific institutions of where they draw from a pool of some graduates. The problem we find ourselves in is that we have no competition. If Intel is the only one funding, at very specific institutions, for their own gain, that's not competition. You need competition to innovate. You need a lot of money and equipment to learn. Intel is not putting that in the hands of any institution they don't control. I'm saying that you can't make a startup for chips out of nowhere like you can software startups. We have to have the underlying education first. The U.S. does not have this, and continues to fall over itself because tech companies have significant Democrat control that won't tax them.