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Are you writing an open letter to the tagesschau now?

by ls15 5y ago

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mpweiher 5y ago
1. The tagesschau did not post on HN. 2. The tagesschau did not claim this so-called "study" was settled knowledge. It's not. Not even close.
- ls15 5y ago
  German title: Johns Hopkins Studie: Lockdown hat kaum Leben gerettet, wohl aber Masken In English: John's Hopkins study: Lockdown hardly saved lifes, but masks did Tagesschau is both, the oldest and the most watched news program on German television.
- ls15 5y ago
  Actually here is where I got it originally from: https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-dienstag-275.html#Studie https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-di... Google Translation: # New study: Hardly any lives saved with lockdowns The total lockdown during the first corona wave saved almost no lives in Europe and the USA, according to the results of a meta-study by researchers at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, which became the most important data source during the pandemic. However, masks for employees in companies or shops and the closing of bars and restaurants had a clear effect on the number of deaths from Covid-19. The researchers examined more than 18,000 global studies on the consequences of the pandemic and only filtered out those that deal with excess mortality from Covid-19. A total of 0.3 percent fewer deaths is the balance for times of total lockdowns with exit restrictions. Masks for employees, on the other hand, have reduced the number of deaths by almost 24 percent, and closed bars by another 15 percent. The order that only a few people are allowed to meet counts at three percent, as ARD correspondent Arthur Landwehr in Washington also reports from the study. Closed schools, on the other hand, had almost no effect, namely 0.1 percent, and the researchers were unable to measure any effect at all with closed borders.
  - mpweiher 5y ago
    Once again, the Tagesschau correctly reported on the contents of the so-called "study". They, unlike you, never claimed that the study's "findings" were actually settled knowledge. Spot the difference.
    - ls15 5y ago
      Maybe at least practice what you preach. > Because the measures we have in place are working. > (And of course people will reverse the causality on this and claim that "hey Denmark opened, and has much lower fatality rate...") > Transmission rates would be a lot higher without vaccines. https://twitter.com/dnunan79/status/1491072159393148929 https://twitter.com/dnunan79/status/1491072159393148929
      - mpweiher 5y ago
        I do practice what I preach. The measures are working. And transmission rates would be a lot higher without the vaccines.
        ls15 5y ago
        Citations?

Are you writing an open letter to the tagesschau now?

by ls15 5y ago

Are you writing an open letter to the tagesschau now?

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mpweiher 5y ago

1. The tagesschau did not post on HN. 2. The tagesschau did not claim this so-called "study" was settled knowledge. It's not. Not even close.

ls15 5y ago
German title: Johns Hopkins Studie: Lockdown hat kaum Leben gerettet, wohl aber Masken In English: John's Hopkins study: Lockdown hardly saved lifes, but masks did Tagesschau is both, the oldest and the most watched news program on German television.
ls15 5y ago
Actually here is where I got it originally from: https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-dienstag-275.html#Studie https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-di... Google Translation: # New study: Hardly any lives saved with lockdowns The total lockdown during the first corona wave saved almost no lives in Europe and the USA, according to the results of a meta-study by researchers at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, which became the most important data source during the pandemic. However, masks for employees in companies or shops and the closing of bars and restaurants had a clear effect on the number of deaths from Covid-19. The researchers examined more than 18,000 global studies on the consequences of the pandemic and only filtered out those that deal with excess mortality from Covid-19. A total of 0.3 percent fewer deaths is the balance for times of total lockdowns with exit restrictions. Masks for employees, on the other hand, have reduced the number of deaths by almost 24 percent, and closed bars by another 15 percent. The order that only a few people are allowed to meet counts at three percent, as ARD correspondent Arthur Landwehr in Washington also reports from the study. Closed schools, on the other hand, had almost no effect, namely 0.1 percent, and the researchers were unable to measure any effect at all with closed borders.
- mpweiher 5y ago
  Once again, the Tagesschau correctly reported on the contents of the so-called "study". They, unlike you, never claimed that the study's "findings" were actually settled knowledge. Spot the difference.
  - ls15 5y ago
    Maybe at least practice what you preach. > Because the measures we have in place are working. > (And of course people will reverse the causality on this and claim that "hey Denmark opened, and has much lower fatality rate...") > Transmission rates would be a lot higher without vaccines. https://twitter.com/dnunan79/status/1491072159393148929 https://twitter.com/dnunan79/status/1491072159393148929
    - mpweiher 5y ago
      I do practice what I preach. The measures are working. And transmission rates would be a lot higher without the vaccines.
      - ls15 5y ago
        Citations?