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Anyway "considered redundant backup not necessary for level 2 autonomy" breaks the "all Teslas now have the HW required for full autonomy" promise. They should
by vletal 5y ago
Anyway "considered redundant backup not necessary for level 2 autonomy" breaks the "all Teslas now have the HW required for full autonomy" promise. They should have told customers.
- mwint 5y agoBetting they're keeping the part on cars ordered with FSD, and those ordering FSD later will get a mobile service visit.
- FireBeyond 5y agoBased on what? Their already sterling commitment to after sale service and support?
- londons_explore 5y agoI suspect the internal decisionmaking will have decided that there are already components of the car which are not double-redundant. For example, if the front left wheel falls off, you're gonna crash. It's simply designed to happen rarely enough that it doesn't have a substantial impact on safety. This powersteering unit now has a lot of field data about failures - they have 3M+ power steering units on the road. So they may now have the confidence to put the powersteering into that category of "single redundant, but sufficiently reliable to be acceptable". Whereas before they had that data, it wasn't.
- mannykannot 5y agoApparently not: 'Internally, Tesla employees said that adding “level 3” functionality, which would allow a driver to use their Tesla hands-free without steering in normal driving scenarios, would need the dual electronic control unit system and therefore require a retrofit at a service visit.'
- extropy 5y agoThat was never really a thing. More like a hope. There was V2, v2.5, V3. With both compute and camera improvements. It's pretty much expected that you will need some form of hw upgrade if your car is >2 years old when the FSD becomes a thing. And it's included in the pricing.