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(Android) Developer Income Report #14
- kreci 15y agoAs usual comments are welcome and strongly desired! =)
- danmaz74 15y agoKreci, just one suggestion: you're already doing very well with your products, you don't need to overdo with advertising on your blog...
- kreci 15y agoThanks for suggestion. I will consider removing some ads.
- dan_sim 15y agoThat would be a bad idea. You make your living by selling those things, you share your numbers with us and then, you would remove some ads because of a jealous programmer. Please don't do it and feel free to sell your stuff as much as you want. I was almost angry when I saw the <AUTOPROMOTION> tag in your post. Why writing it? You have to autopromote your products if you want to sell them. This <AUTOPROMOTION> tag makes me feel like you're not serious about your book.
- kreci 15y agoThanks for this comment. <Autopromotion> tag is just to give my readers little smile. But I am very serious about the eBook. It is really helping to increase others revenue and give my income some boost too. You may check it by reading comments by happy buyers. So no without tag I am really recommending it to anyone who want some boost in downloads of their Android apps based on my experience ;)
- danmaz74 15y agoThank you for the "jealous programmer"... I had a feeling that on hacker news this kind of personal attack wasn't welcome, but hey. By the way, I was talking about the google ads.
- JoelSutherland 15y agoI would remove the adsense ads entirely. They just dilute your book ad which I'm sure is much more profitable for you. It's worth testing, but my guess is that you would increase your overall revenues by eliminating them.
- JshWright 15y agoI don't mind the ads so much, it's more the placement... Both in-line adsense blocks are in confusing places. "Here are a few quotes from one of my favourite eMails:" followed by an adsense block. It took me a second to parse that quotes you were referring to weren't "Make 85% profit in 15 Min" and "Real Work at Home Income" Same thing for the second block. It falls in a very awkward place.
- eatm0rewaffles 15y agoAt the same time this ad didn't pass you by and go unnoticed it fulfilled its purpose. Which is the entire purpose of the ad to you know get you to look at it and garner your attention. If the ad were off to the side would it be as effective? @ OP I am sure you could play with this and find which is more effective thus increasing or maintaining your bottom line.
- smoyer 15y agoI'm not so sure ... I know I skimmed over two sections that I recognized as ads but now, only 90 seconds later, can't tell you what even one of the ads was for. All I know is that they weren't content.
- eatm0rewaffles 15y agoAnd yet you are taking the time to write about it twice.
- JshWright 15y agosmoyer only has one post on this entire comment page...
- eatm0rewaffles 15y agoPoint made. It also seems to be the common topic discussion on this thread though.
- JonLim 15y agoDon't feel pressured to, but I think you would make your page much more pleasing to the eye if you placed your ads on the side rather than embedded into your posts. They will still give you some advertising exposure for AdSense, but they won't get in the way of people trying to read your blog post, and your product promotions in your post won't get lost in the noise. Just a suggestion, you're kicking ass and taking names either way!
- eatm0rewaffles 15y agoJust a thought why would you remove something that works for something that hasn't yet been proven?
- Caballera 15y agoI'm very impressed by your results and a friend and I have been taking your advice to heart for the last 2 months and working on learning and creating our first app. Our programming experience is very limited but we're making progress. Great advice and interesting to see your results.
- kreci 15y agoI have been learning Android Development by creating my first app that has been published on the market. It is not too popular but learnt me a lot about development and good marketing appeal. Most important is to do something and try hard to do it well and the success usually comes sooner or later ;)
- Smerity 15y agoI've been following your reports for some time and am always pleasantly surprised when I see the next one pop up! One thing though is that whilst your writing conveys passion and excitement your English is still below par. If you're interested, I'd be happy to proof-read your articles before they go up. My email is in my profile. I look forward to your next report -- I hope you hit at least $4k =]
- kreci 15y agoThanks - trying hard to get those $4k. I had very limited time for today post so English is not as good as it might be but will try to improve it in the future... :)
- 0x12 15y agoDon't fret about it, you're doing great. The thing that matters is the content, not the package. I'm sure that if you'd write a sales brochure you'd have someone check it but for your blog posts your level of English is more than adequate. Dziekuje bardzo za wszystko ;)
- acabal 15y agoAre these numbers revenue or profit? And congrats :)
- kreci 15y agoI still need to pay tax and health insurance from those and I have about $300 of monthly costs (server, domains, internet etc).
- rnernento 15y agoJust want to say I love reading your Income Reports. I'm especially impressed with iStockPhoto which seems to be an awesome source of revenue that doesn't require a lot of maintenance. Any insights on how you decided what to include in your portfolio there?
- jaryd 15y agoAlways happy to see these pop up on HN.. Anyone else willing to share their passive income stream? EDIT: sadly I do not have a passive income stream to share!
- Lost_BiomedE 15y agoAt HN, passive income usually comes from software, but tons of people make it from online retail. I formulated a skin cream and a lab makes and ships it. The majority of the work is website creation/maintenance and branding/promotion. After you get rolling, it is only about an hour or two of work a week at most. I get the impression that many people want to stick solely to their domain and lose sight of the possibility of using their skills to have a competitive advantage in a different market. I am not sure if you were looking for numbers or a different story, but I hope this helps.
- richardw 15y agoGreat response - broadens the mind about what's possible. Congratulations - nice to see success in a different area.
- Hisoka 15y agoWhat is the average CPM like for those Android ads? And how much time did you spend promoting that app prior to releasing it?
- shabda 15y agoIn case it interests someone, I am planning to write similar data for my adventures with app development. http://appsreport.agiliq.com/ http://appsreport.agiliq.com/ (I made 33$ lat month, on path to making 45$ this month, but hey its increasing!) More links http://appsreport.agiliq.com/apps-income-report-1-august http://appsreport.agiliq.com/apps-income-report-1-august https://img.skitch.com/20110820-kjnc6agqj75m6an3a4ua6hbfbc.png https://img.skitch.com/20110820-kjnc6agqj75m6an3a4ua6hbfbc.p...
- z92 15y agoCan anyone give an insight: is iOS development still profitable for someone who wants to enter now, this late?
- m_eiman 15y agoIs [Windows|OSX|web|...] development still profitable, this late? In other words, it depends on if you're developing something people want or not. But I'd guess that the fart app market is saturated by now...
- hvs 15y agoThe gold rush is over (thankfully). If you create something of value (a very subjective word) and are able to get visibility, you can be profitable.
- leon_ 15y ago> and are able to get visibility That's the big if here. If you can't get visibility you will make almost no money. It's a gamble.
- andrewljohnson 15y agoYes, if you pick an idea that people definitely need, and you execute well, you'll make money. It's riskier if you try to make something completely new (like Color) - if you just need money, then pick something that's a clear win. One example is Offline City Maps. I think almost anyone can go download the Route-Me mapping library, download OSM data, and make an offline city maps app that makes a few thousand a month.
- mhd 15y agoCould you give a short overview what you did recently? I mean, the book is written, of course, but did you create or update your Android apps a lot, did you take new photographs etc.? Or is that pretty much fixed, (semi-)passive income and you're working on the next thing(s)?
- fara 15y agoThanks for sharnig. What Ad platform do you use? AdMob? Have you tryed other alternatives?
- ashrust 15y agoWould be interesting to see this compared to the number of hours you've put in over the course of the development, so you have an increasing per hour rate.
- aab 15y agoI'm also working on a book (which will be free) with Android tips & tricks for making your apps popular. Following only this book's tips I plan to get to a stable $3-4000/month with 160 work hours - the equivalent of one 8h/day work month. I am currently on the right track, making $300/month with about 16h of work.