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If Trump frequented sex workers surely some evidence would have shown up? It’s not like he’s discreet about his marriages, affairs and dalliances. He doesn’t ap

If Trump frequented sex workers surely some evidence would have shown up? It’s not like he’s discreet about his marriages, affairs and dalliances. He doesn’t appear to be capable of shutting up.

ben_w 5y ago
Didn’t one of those sex workers [0] get paid to sign an NDA about the sex? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels–Donald_Trump_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels–Donald_Trump_sc... [0] sex worker in this case being porn actress not AFAIK a prostitute; I don’t know which of “porn star” or “prostitute” would’ve been more damaging in the view of Trump’s advisers with regard to his expected electoral result at the time, as American cultural attitudes to sexuality are basically alien to me.
mlac 5y ago
It’s damaging on a whole other level to have video of someone peeing on the president of the United States. Maybe his core would say “that’s fake, but even if it’s real, then hey, what he’s into, he’s into - people can do weird stuff”. But actually seeing the video of someone peeing on the president of the United States is humiliating for the party and the country, and would (maybe?) be enough to have him sidelined. They could argue “respect the office, not the person”, but the counter would quickly be “if a person doesn’t have enough respect to not be peed on by another human being, then maybe they shouldn’t hold the office”. I mean - it would just be replayed over and over and the Streisand effect would take hold. Any pro-trump person would probably have to wade through replies with links of him being urinated on. Quickly jokes would come up about him taking crap, it’d be thrown into debates. Chants would be made… the little decal of the guy peeing on stuff would quickly be put over trump name or campaign stickers.
ineedasername 5y ago
It’s not like he’s discreet He's paid off & NDA'ed a few known people, it's possible that not everyone he's done that with bothered to come forward once he was president. He may appear indiscreet merely because his efforts failed in two cases but not in others. Those two failures show that he was making significant efforts to keep this sort of thing discreet. This is by no means intended as an argument that additional incidents like this took place, only the observation that claiming something that already has precedent didn't happen again because "evidence would have shown up" is flawed justification.
Spooky23 5y ago
It happened enough that he had a business arrangement with the National Enquirer to pay for and kill the stories. Also “Stormy Daniels”. The genius of Trump is that he’s able to normalize it. He had scandals every week that would take down most people.
wpietri 5y ago
You miss how enormously vindictive and litigious he is. What sex worker wants to spend years getting sued, having every negative aspect of their life dragged into the public spotlight, etc, etc?

ben_w 5y ago

Didn’t one of those sex workers [0] get paid to sign an NDA about the sex? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels–Donald_Trump_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels–Donald_Trump_sc... [0] sex worker in this case being porn actress not AFAIK a prostitute; I don’t know which of “porn star” or “prostitute” would’ve been more damaging in the view of Trump’s advisers with regard to his expected electoral result at the time, as American cultural attitudes to sexuality are basically alien to me.

mlac 5y ago

It’s damaging on a whole other level to have video of someone peeing on the president of the United States. Maybe his core would say “that’s fake, but even if it’s real, then hey, what he’s into, he’s into - people can do weird stuff”. But actually seeing the video of someone peeing on the president of the United States is humiliating for the party and the country, and would (maybe?) be enough to have him sidelined. They could argue “respect the office, not the person”, but the counter would quickly be “if a person doesn’t have enough respect to not be peed on by another human being, then maybe they shouldn’t hold the office”. I mean - it would just be replayed over and over and the Streisand effect would take hold. Any pro-trump person would probably have to wade through replies with links of him being urinated on. Quickly jokes would come up about him taking crap, it’d be thrown into debates. Chants would be made… the little decal of the guy peeing on stuff would quickly be put over trump name or campaign stickers.

ineedasername 5y ago

It’s not like he’s discreet He's paid off & NDA'ed a few known people, it's possible that not everyone he's done that with bothered to come forward once he was president. He may appear indiscreet merely because his efforts failed in two cases but not in others. Those two failures show that he was making significant efforts to keep this sort of thing discreet. This is by no means intended as an argument that additional incidents like this took place, only the observation that claiming something that already has precedent didn't happen again because "evidence would have shown up" is flawed justification.

Spooky23 5y ago

It happened enough that he had a business arrangement with the National Enquirer to pay for and kill the stories. Also “Stormy Daniels”. The genius of Trump is that he’s able to normalize it. He had scandals every week that would take down most people.

wpietri 5y ago

You miss how enormously vindictive and litigious he is. What sex worker wants to spend years getting sued, having every negative aspect of their life dragged into the public spotlight, etc, etc?