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I think it's purely based on you workflow. I'm a "maximizer," 99% of the time things are maximized on my desktop. A second tile (browser) is usually extremely t

I think it's purely based on you workflow. I'm a "maximizer," 99% of the time things are maximized on my desktop. A second tile (browser) is usually extremely temporary. Other stuff goes to other desktops. So I general, my layout is highly consistent: just one tile. For what it's worth, hiding the unimportant details in a web page can also be accomplished by zoom/scroll - but that's definitely not to say your approach is wrong. Different things for different people.

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pjerem 5y ago
Fellow maximiser here. It’s probably the reason why I still love OSX after all the shitty updates. The full-screen mode is a marvel of ergonomics once you get it. Just maximize your apps and switch between them with the trackpad like they are virtual desktops (because they, in fact, are). It’s an awesome mode for a single screen workflow. Tilings WM are cool but you are rapidly limited with be screen (and even with two).
- djur 5y ago
  My main gripe with the macOS fullscreen mode is that there's no way to force the non-fullscreen desktop to stay in one place. If something in a fullscreen app pulls up the desktop (for instance, running an installer you just downloaded), the desktop gets moved to the next position. I want to force it to stay in one place (or, ideally, have a gesture or hotkey to switch between my fullscreen windows and the desktop). I could do this with most of the tiled WMs I've used.
  - slimsag 5y ago
    Oh my god, this, this, this! I've basically trained myself not to click links anywhere, because I know the macOS window manager will f* up my virtual desktop order and I'll have to fix it.
  - spockz 5y ago
    And in addition hotkeys to go to a specific desktop/app!
  - hibbelig 5y ago
    Isn’t there an option to support spaces by LRU? It defaults to on. I turned it off ages ago. But I also stopped using spaced some time after that so perhaps the option was removed…
- cycomanic 5y ago
  I'm confused, you make it sound like there is something unique to OSX here. But every Linux WM has had virtual desktops since ages ago and virtual desktops are a superior solution to just fullscreen windows (they can do the same for fullscreen windows+do the same for groups of windows... )
  - dagw 5y ago
    OS X also has normal virtual desktops. The 'unique' feature of OS X is that when you maximize a window instead of maximizing on your current desktop, covering any other windows you have open, it creates a new virtual desktop and moves the maximized window there. When you de-maximize it automatically moves the window back to its original virtual desktop and removes the temporary desktop you created.
    - Macha 5y ago
      I've always found this behavior of OS X super confusing as it means full screening a window breaks my mental model of workspace arrangement when I use the workspace left/right commands. I much prefer i3's behaviour of full screen just being a state on the window you can toggle.
    - distances 5y ago
      So that's why maximize behaves so weirdly on Mac! I find it pretty jarring so I only use maximize now for some meetings and presentations if I have to use Mac.
      - GekkePrutser 5y ago
        Yeah and even before they did this, maximise behaved weirdly on a Mac. It didn't maximise to the screen but to the "content" which meant that some apps would not maximise fully. You can still initiate the old behaviour by holding option when you click the green dot, by the way. But macOS (at least since macOS X) has never had a maximise in the way that most other desktop environments have it. To simply make a window occupy the whole screen on top of everything else.
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gordaco 5y ago
Same here. I'm usually a "single task" person (I like to focus. I know well that I don't function well when trying to do many things at once), so a single maximised window is always the optimal approach for me. This is also why I've never bothered with multiple displays, which most of my workmates love. On the rare occasion when I need to use data from a window to write something on other (like something that can't be copied and pasted, or cases where I need to extract information but not literally copying, such as using some data points from a reference file in code I'm writing) I just use win+left and win+right to spliut the screen between the two windows (I assume that OSes other than Windows have similar hotkeys).

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pjerem 5y ago

Fellow maximiser here. It’s probably the reason why I still love OSX after all the shitty updates. The full-screen mode is a marvel of ergonomics once you get it. Just maximize your apps and switch between them with the trackpad like they are virtual desktops (because they, in fact, are). It’s an awesome mode for a single screen workflow. Tilings WM are cool but you are rapidly limited with be screen (and even with two).

djur 5y ago
My main gripe with the macOS fullscreen mode is that there's no way to force the non-fullscreen desktop to stay in one place. If something in a fullscreen app pulls up the desktop (for instance, running an installer you just downloaded), the desktop gets moved to the next position. I want to force it to stay in one place (or, ideally, have a gesture or hotkey to switch between my fullscreen windows and the desktop). I could do this with most of the tiled WMs I've used.
- slimsag 5y ago
  Oh my god, this, this, this! I've basically trained myself not to click links anywhere, because I know the macOS window manager will f* up my virtual desktop order and I'll have to fix it.
- spockz 5y ago
  And in addition hotkeys to go to a specific desktop/app!
- hibbelig 5y ago
  Isn’t there an option to support spaces by LRU? It defaults to on. I turned it off ages ago. But I also stopped using spaced some time after that so perhaps the option was removed…
cycomanic 5y ago
I'm confused, you make it sound like there is something unique to OSX here. But every Linux WM has had virtual desktops since ages ago and virtual desktops are a superior solution to just fullscreen windows (they can do the same for fullscreen windows+do the same for groups of windows... )
- dagw 5y ago
  OS X also has normal virtual desktops. The 'unique' feature of OS X is that when you maximize a window instead of maximizing on your current desktop, covering any other windows you have open, it creates a new virtual desktop and moves the maximized window there. When you de-maximize it automatically moves the window back to its original virtual desktop and removes the temporary desktop you created.
  - Macha 5y ago
    I've always found this behavior of OS X super confusing as it means full screening a window breaks my mental model of workspace arrangement when I use the workspace left/right commands. I much prefer i3's behaviour of full screen just being a state on the window you can toggle.
  - distances 5y ago
    So that's why maximize behaves so weirdly on Mac! I find it pretty jarring so I only use maximize now for some meetings and presentations if I have to use Mac.
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      Yeah and even before they did this, maximise behaved weirdly on a Mac. It didn't maximise to the screen but to the "content" which meant that some apps would not maximise fully. You can still initiate the old behaviour by holding option when you click the green dot, by the way. But macOS (at least since macOS X) has never had a maximise in the way that most other desktop environments have it. To simply make a window occupy the whole screen on top of everything else.
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gordaco 5y ago

Same here. I'm usually a "single task" person (I like to focus. I know well that I don't function well when trying to do many things at once), so a single maximised window is always the optimal approach for me. This is also why I've never bothered with multiple displays, which most of my workmates love. On the rare occasion when I need to use data from a window to write something on other (like something that can't be copied and pasted, or cases where I need to extract information but not literally copying, such as using some data points from a reference file in code I'm writing) I just use win+left and win+right to spliut the screen between the two windows (I assume that OSes other than Windows have similar hotkeys).