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Re: 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test

by vanusa 5y ago

wonderwonder 5y ago
So, you have never listened to a full episode then right... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect
- vanusa 5y ago
  Seriously, your argument is inherently specious. It's rather like saying: "How dare you disrespect Bruce Springsteen! I bet you've never actually sat down and listened to any of his albums."
  - wonderwonder 5y ago
    I really like Bruce Springsteen :) So to summarize, you have never listened to an episode of Rogan but you think he is a troll, meaning your opinion is based on clever clips put together to influence your opinion. hmm, I feel like there is a word for people who think an argument is strong but don't really know what they are talking about. Another word for people who just pile on to an opinion because that's what the cool kids are doing. Buy hey, quack quack, amirite :)
    - vanusa 5y ago
      “But if you’re like 21 years old, and you say to me, ‘Should I get vaccinated?’ I’ll go no. If you're a healthy person, and you're exercising all the time, and you're young, and you're eating well...like, I don't think you need to worry about this."” It's like anything with any other performative figure: an author, a musician, a film maker, or a talk show how host... sometimes a single snippet of their work (as long as it is correctly represented) is all you need to make a make perfectly valid impression. In Rogan's case -- whether he's a troll or a simpleton (i.e. isn't so much trying to push buttons, but honestly doesn't understand the scientific arguments he's critiquing, or the harm he encourages by doing so) doesn't matter -- not to me, any ways. And I really don't need to invest any more time figuring out whether he has a more "nuanced" side or not. There are literally thousands of "must-see/read/hear" items on my list. Many years overdue. If you see him in a different light, that's perfectly fine. I do like Springsteen actually, so we're on the same page there at least.
      - wonderwonder 5y ago
        Fair enough, each to their own. I would argue that there is nothing wrong with his statement (I am triple vaxxed) but I feel like we are likely coming at this from opposing viewpoints. Either way, appreciate the conversation and wish you well.
        vanusa 5y ago
        Likewise.
    - RickJWagner 5y ago

Re: 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test

by vanusa 5y ago

Re: 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test

So, you have never listened to a full episode then right... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect

vanusa 5y ago
Seriously, your argument is inherently specious. It's rather like saying: "How dare you disrespect Bruce Springsteen! I bet you've never actually sat down and listened to any of his albums."
- wonderwonder 5y ago
  I really like Bruce Springsteen :) So to summarize, you have never listened to an episode of Rogan but you think he is a troll, meaning your opinion is based on clever clips put together to influence your opinion. hmm, I feel like there is a word for people who think an argument is strong but don't really know what they are talking about. Another word for people who just pile on to an opinion because that's what the cool kids are doing. Buy hey, quack quack, amirite :)
  - vanusa 5y ago
    “But if you’re like 21 years old, and you say to me, ‘Should I get vaccinated?’ I’ll go no. If you're a healthy person, and you're exercising all the time, and you're young, and you're eating well...like, I don't think you need to worry about this."” It's like anything with any other performative figure: an author, a musician, a film maker, or a talk show how host... sometimes a single snippet of their work (as long as it is correctly represented) is all you need to make a make perfectly valid impression. In Rogan's case -- whether he's a troll or a simpleton (i.e. isn't so much trying to push buttons, but honestly doesn't understand the scientific arguments he's critiquing, or the harm he encourages by doing so) doesn't matter -- not to me, any ways. And I really don't need to invest any more time figuring out whether he has a more "nuanced" side or not. There are literally thousands of "must-see/read/hear" items on my list. Many years overdue. If you see him in a different light, that's perfectly fine. I do like Springsteen actually, so we're on the same page there at least.
    - wonderwonder 5y ago
      Fair enough, each to their own. I would argue that there is nothing wrong with his statement (I am triple vaxxed) but I feel like we are likely coming at this from opposing viewpoints. Either way, appreciate the conversation and wish you well.
      - vanusa 5y ago
        Likewise.
  - RickJWagner 5y ago