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Recruiters lying about salary? Is this just me or is it getting out of control?
I recently had a recruiter message me for a salary up to one million dollars. How impractical is this?
- 71a54xd 5y agoThe worst new trend I've seen is a "soft offer" prior to the final round interview. These are also usually way out of alignment with the role / other teams. Not willing to name and shame here - but it's annoying and a waste of time.
- avgDev 5y agoHave never heard that before. I would probably respond that I can work up to 40 hours a week depending on where the salary lands.
- throwaway889900 5y agoNigerian princes stepping up their game huh?
- siddarthd2919 5y agoPlease provide more background.. If you are recruited for the CEO of one of the FAANG, 1 million salary seems too low.
- olliej 5y agoI have always assumed that when we hear about $1M, $500k "junior", etc devs they're including stock based comp. While I am just an IC so obviously not near the upper echelons, I've never been aware of base salaries for ICs being in those regions.
- twblalock 5y agoIt's normally inclusive of stock comp, although some companies like Netflix let employees choose to get most or all of their total comp in cash if they want to.
- htrp 5y agoI think the 500k TC posts are usually talking about the massive stock appreciation that the FAANGs have gone through. For example on Feb 4, 2019 Amazon was trading at 1623. By Feb 4, 2022 stock is trading at 3,112. This multiplies the value of any TC in years 3 and 4 by a significant sum (given the 5/15/40/40 vest) due to the near doubling of stock value over 3 years.
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- pclmulqdq 5y agoThis is a classic bait and switch strategy that recruiters use. They have contracts for 3-4 "sexy" 1M+ positions open, so they dangle them in front of you to entice you into a conversation. Once they have you on the phone, they ask you for a resume they can send around to all of their entry-level positions. IMO these recruiters are a big waste of time.
- totalZero 5y agoAsk who their client is. If they bait and switch you, that information gives you the freedom to contact the client and complain.
- pclmulqdq 5y agoIn my experience, they usually won't tell you who the clients are unless they are actually interested in you for the role. I have tried this with one recruiter, and it didn't work well.
- totalZero 5y agoIf they don't tell you the client then why would you continue interacting with them?
- andrewxdiamond 5y agoIf they do tell you the client, why would you stay? Going direct is cheaper for the hiring company and can net you a better deal. That’s why they don’t tell you the client up-front, it’s the only leverage they have.
- mvid 5y agoAny decent internal recruiter has an agreement that if they reached out to you, even if you bypassed them to contact the company, they get credit. And you are probably being contacted through a CRM that automates it for them.
- itsdrewmiller 5y agoI'd love to see how this is written into the contract. I've worked on the company side with a lot of contingency recruiters and the wording is never broad enough to cover "we talked to them but didn't actually send them to you".
- totalZero 5y ago
- gnicholas 5y agoTBH probably better if their lies are getting unbelievable. Makes it easier to separate the wheat from the chaff!
- barelysapient 5y agoAsk them for a copy of the req before providing your resume.
- olliej 5y agoHonestly I have never found recruiters useful, and I've had some incredibly rude responses from them when I have politely declined, or when I have simply ignored them as spam. It's amazing to watch as a series of emails just gets progressively more aggressive and argumentative, as though they believe that they are entitled to my time. If you send an unsolicited recruitment email you haven't earned a response. Of course they always hide who's they're recruiting for (except for one time with a FB recruiter who got passive aggressive with my not responding - this is after I'd responded to multiple prior recruiters that I would literally never work there - where honestly I feel I should have tried to find a contact at FB to forward it to. [edit: I also realize the "up to X" is bullshit, and should reply asking what the minimum is]
- throwaway1md 5y agoThrowaway: I make about a million and I’m an IC software engineer. It’s possible. Is it specifically salary or is that TC?
- bradlys 5y agoI also made the same but due to stock appreciation. Practically no one is an IC and getting 7-fig out the gate.
- throwaway22032 5y agoMy salary is up to one million dollars. Well, it's at the high end of the range, anyway. By the way, I define high as being in the top 90%.
- forgotmyacc 5y agowhat do you do?
- StanislavPetrov 5y ago"Up to" is upper limit on what they claim you could potentially make - a meaningless term. You can make up to $500 million dollars selling water filters in an MLM marketing scheme if only you sell 6 billion of them.
- geekbird 5y agoWTF? Suuure, "up to" one million, but over what time period? Technically $100k/year for 10 years is one million.
- FpUser 5y agoI receive this kind of offers from linkedin nearly daily. I do not even bother to look.
- JSeymourATL 5y agoCurious—- have you checked out this recruiters individual profile and his firm? Do they look remotely legit? There are certainly some eye-popping compensation packages out there these days. Basic rule of thumb: recruiting at the $1M level requires a certain finesse and sophistication to engage high caliber prospective talent. Coming at me cold with a $1M tease, just sounds bogus.
- irvingprime 5y agoIn my experience, recruiters (not all of them but some) lie about EVERYTHING. Why not the money?
- sleepingadmin 5y agoRecruiters lying? In other news, water is wet so long as bears shit in the woods.