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I think it depends on so many things. In this particular case there are far worse problems in the world than Joe Rogan quoting someone and using the N word. I c

by exdsq 5y ago

I think it depends on so many things. In this particular case there are far worse problems in the world than Joe Rogan quoting someone and using the N word. I completely disagree with his stance on vaccinations but I also disagree that he's some sort of major source of disinformation. In the general case, I think it's bad that the socially expected thing at the moment is to be angry at {something}. It is both bad for peoples mental health and in general and it detracts from more serious issues in the world. Take for example the situation in Ukraine. Wouldn't it be more effective to be vocal to our politicians to say we don't want to start some catastrophic war there than to try and force a tech company to remove a podcast host? If Joe Rogan isn't removed, will people even remember this discussion in three months? Probably not, because by that time {someone} will have said {something} and everyone will be tweeting angry thoughts at them instead.

mongol 5y ago
> Wouldn't it be more effective to be vocal to our politicians to say we don't want to start some catastrophic war there I don't have the impression that any politician (in the west) wants to do that.
- exdsq 5y ago
  Nationalist/populist leaders losing support love looking strong for polls. Putin is losing support internally and is trying to look strong for the polls. Two sides both playing a game of chicken is risky and would be helped by internal pressures.
croon 5y ago
> I completely disagree with his stance on vaccinations but I also disagree that he's some sort of major source of disinformation. Just to play with this a bit. Joe Rogan is unvaccinated himself, and he at least has recommended young people not to get vaccinated. In the meantime ICU beds are/have been occupied by overwhelmingly unvaccinated people (proportionally) pushing out other urgent medical care, all over the world. I agree that we can't blame everything on something/someone specific, but JRE is the biggest podcast on the planet, so I think it's fair to say he's probably one major source (among others).

by exdsq 5y ago

mongol 5y ago

> Wouldn't it be more effective to be vocal to our politicians to say we don't want to start some catastrophic war there I don't have the impression that any politician (in the west) wants to do that.

exdsq 5y ago
Nationalist/populist leaders losing support love looking strong for polls. Putin is losing support internally and is trying to look strong for the polls. Two sides both playing a game of chicken is risky and would be helped by internal pressures.

croon 5y ago

> I completely disagree with his stance on vaccinations but I also disagree that he's some sort of major source of disinformation. Just to play with this a bit. Joe Rogan is unvaccinated himself, and he at least has recommended young people not to get vaccinated. In the meantime ICU beds are/have been occupied by overwhelmingly unvaccinated people (proportionally) pushing out other urgent medical care, all over the world. I agree that we can't blame everything on something/someone specific, but JRE is the biggest podcast on the planet, so I think it's fair to say he's probably one major source (among others).