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> This thread has me depressed. Certainly was not my aim, and I sympathize. I've said many times I'd never move into game dev because of the workload and sheer

> This thread has me depressed. Certainly was not my aim, and I sympathize. I've said many times I'd never move into game dev because of the workload and sheer work-to-flame ratio, and this thread isn't an exception. Likewise, thank you for providing some light from within the industry, it is appreciated. I'd sign that NDA in a heartbeat if it didn't anonymize me, but I don't want my name floating around in databases I know nothing about. It's mighty tempting to see how the sausage is made, though. I will ask this: Does the decision to include such an anti-cheat come from the studio usually, or the publisher?

dijit 5y ago
Usually it's studio; but it's a bit give and take in that regard. Some studios might have some bean counter at the publisher asking about things they think are good ("You gotta have anti-cheat/DRM!") Other studios might be coerced to "if you're going to use anti-cheat, why not use this one we have a good deal with". But ultimately it has been a studio decision. I'm even swapping my current anti-cheat due to this kind of Sinophobia. Ironically, we had to specifically ask Tencent for their anti-cheat (because it was the best available..) but.. people thought it was spyware[0]. To the point that you literally see nothing else about my game it seems. Double ironically: we still had cheaters on the platform[1]... it will probably be worse with EAC (as it was in the division days[2], some people even blamed the state of cheating on "not enough anti-cheat"[3]) But, to answer your question: in my experience it's the studio's choice, but some people in the publishing chain might try to coerce a decision. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/BloodHunt/comments/pkpr1t/so_whats_wrong_with_the_anticheat/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BloodHunt/comments/pkpr1t/so_whats_... [1]: https://futuregaming.io/gaming-news/bloodhunt-cheating-problem-devs-need-to-fix/ https://futuregaming.io/gaming-news/bloodhunt-cheating-probl... [2]: https://kotaku.com/race-to-clear-the-division-2s-new-raid-marred-by-cheati-1844238039 https://kotaku.com/race-to-clear-the-division-2s-new-raid-ma... [3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/4k17n8/confessions_of_a_cheater_and_the_current_problems/ https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/4k17n8/confess...

dijit 5y ago

Usually it's studio; but it's a bit give and take in that regard. Some studios might have some bean counter at the publisher asking about things they think are good ("You gotta have anti-cheat/DRM!") Other studios might be coerced to "if you're going to use anti-cheat, why not use this one we have a good deal with". But ultimately it has been a studio decision. I'm even swapping my current anti-cheat due to this kind of Sinophobia. Ironically, we had to specifically ask Tencent for their anti-cheat (because it was the best available..) but.. people thought it was spyware[0]. To the point that you literally see nothing else about my game it seems. Double ironically: we still had cheaters on the platform[1]... it will probably be worse with EAC (as it was in the division days[2], some people even blamed the state of cheating on "not enough anti-cheat"[3]) But, to answer your question: in my experience it's the studio's choice, but some people in the publishing chain might try to coerce a decision. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/BloodHunt/comments/pkpr1t/so_whats_wrong_with_the_anticheat/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BloodHunt/comments/pkpr1t/so_whats_... [1]: https://futuregaming.io/gaming-news/bloodhunt-cheating-problem-devs-need-to-fix/ https://futuregaming.io/gaming-news/bloodhunt-cheating-probl... [2]: https://kotaku.com/race-to-clear-the-division-2s-new-raid-marred-by-cheati-1844238039 https://kotaku.com/race-to-clear-the-division-2s-new-raid-ma... [3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/4k17n8/confessions_of_a_cheater_and_the_current_problems/ https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/4k17n8/confess...