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I’d love to pay Google if it meant I could trust they wouldn’t read/index my email and use the information in for any purpose.

wffurr 5y ago
Even Fastmail "reads and indexes your email" so you can search it and to train their spam filter: https://www.fastmail.com/about/privacy/ https://www.fastmail.com/about/privacy/
ricktdotorg 5y ago
> Google Workspace customers own their customer data, not Google. Customer data that Google Workspace organizations put into our systems is theirs, and we do not scan it for advertisements.[1] if you pay for Google Workspace, your email is not scanned/indexed with the intention to serve you ads based on that content. [edited for clarity] [1] https://workspace.google.com/learn-more/security/security-whitepaper/page-6.html https://workspace.google.com/learn-more/security/security-wh...
- CryptoBanker 5y ago
  Not scanned for advertisements. There are plenty of other uses for that data
  - jackson1442 5y ago
    At its most basic interpretation, they do scan your emails for spam. That's something I'm perfectly happy letting my email provider do for me.
kylehotchkiss 5y ago
Google Workspace explicitly guarantees your data won't be scanned for advertising purposes. Businesses trust it with their trade secrets and internal communications so I presume Google wouldn't scan it for other reasons too. Starts at $6/user/month. https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/gws_security_whitepaper.pdf https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/gws_security_white...
- CryptoBanker 5y ago
  Google only explicitly promises to not scan for advertisements. That almost seems like an admission they scan it for everything else
  - threatofrain 5y ago
    People at least expect that Google scans for malware and scam attempts.
  - joshuamorton 5y ago
    This is a complaint made fairly regularly, but I mean...yes. spam classification and filters require "scanning" your email. The workspace data policies are fairly strict though,your data doesn't leave your account and can't be used outside the context of your account.
p1mrx 5y ago
"These ads are shown to you based on your online activity while you're signed into Google. We will not scan or read your Gmail messages to show you ads." https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603 I think they used to ad-scan free Gmail accounts, but stopped several years ago because telling paying customers "well see, we do scan some email, but not yours" required too much nuance.

wffurr 5y ago

Even Fastmail "reads and indexes your email" so you can search it and to train their spam filter: https://www.fastmail.com/about/privacy/ https://www.fastmail.com/about/privacy/

ricktdotorg 5y ago

> Google Workspace customers own their customer data, not Google. Customer data that Google Workspace organizations put into our systems is theirs, and we do not scan it for advertisements.[1] if you pay for Google Workspace, your email is not scanned/indexed with the intention to serve you ads based on that content. [edited for clarity] [1] https://workspace.google.com/learn-more/security/security-whitepaper/page-6.html https://workspace.google.com/learn-more/security/security-wh...

CryptoBanker 5y ago
Not scanned for advertisements. There are plenty of other uses for that data
- jackson1442 5y ago
  At its most basic interpretation, they do scan your emails for spam. That's something I'm perfectly happy letting my email provider do for me.

kylehotchkiss 5y ago

Google Workspace explicitly guarantees your data won't be scanned for advertising purposes. Businesses trust it with their trade secrets and internal communications so I presume Google wouldn't scan it for other reasons too. Starts at $6/user/month. https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/gws_security_whitepaper.pdf https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/gws_security_white...

CryptoBanker 5y ago
Google only explicitly promises to not scan for advertisements. That almost seems like an admission they scan it for everything else
- threatofrain 5y ago
  People at least expect that Google scans for malware and scam attempts.
- joshuamorton 5y ago
  This is a complaint made fairly regularly, but I mean...yes. spam classification and filters require "scanning" your email. The workspace data policies are fairly strict though,your data doesn't leave your account and can't be used outside the context of your account.

p1mrx 5y ago

"These ads are shown to you based on your online activity while you're signed into Google. We will not scan or read your Gmail messages to show you ads." https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603 I think they used to ad-scan free Gmail accounts, but stopped several years ago because telling paying customers "well see, we do scan some email, but not yours" required too much nuance.