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Agree. Looking at HN, Blind, Glassdoor, very rarely do I remember seeing an engineer that would openly state that they love working there.

by aantix 5y ago

Kranar 5y ago
Plenty of software developers would kill to work for Amazon, sure the work conditions and prestige is not as great as the other big companies but Amazon still pays pretty darn well. The big issue is the developers Amazon wants to hire are not the same as the developers who want to work there, so Amazon is basically paying a huge premium to attract people. That said let's not kid ourselves, the majority of people at Amazon are happy to be there, get paid very well, and are reasonably competent.
- aantix 5y ago
  Clearly with their base pay and RSUs, they still weren't offering enough. A doubling of base pay means that they realize they have been way off the mark.
- munk-a 5y ago
  I don't know how well that impression is born out by the generally short tenures and increasing growth of base pay that we're observing. Lots of decently large tech firms pay well beyond Amazon's rates and manage to retain people for far longer - this move specifically seems to be highlighting that the compensation Amazon was offering was insufficient for the pain employees were being burdened with. I do also think FAANG built up a reputation for inaccessibility to intermediate devs which gives them an air of prestige but also significantly impairs their hiring ability.
davidrupp 5y ago
I'm a senior SDE (L6) @ AMZN (currently IMDb) with seven years tenure -- opinions my own, obvs. I've had some negative experiences with individuals / organizations over that time, but on balance I can honestly say I love working here. It is quite possible to get maneuvered into a bad situation such that you end up having to leave through no real fault of your own, but it's also possible to find a good fit and do exactly what the motto says: "Work hard, have fun, make history".
yolovoe 5y ago
I work at Amazon. Less than 2 yoe but is comp is solid, even compared to Goog and Meta, perhaps cause I'm currently top of band. Wlb is amazing. Did 5-6 hour days on last team. Coworkers were chill. Now I work more (6-7 hour days) cause I'm on a systems team, but I get to learn a lot about how EC2 servers are run. My manager cares about my learning and I get basically an hour a week with the tech lead where I can ask them questions. Have been able to meet a couple principal engineers and they've even reviewed some of my work. I have nothing bad to shared about my experience so far. Did I mention I don't have deadlines?
- Raptor22 5y ago
  I would kill to not have deadlines... I also work here heh

Agree. Looking at HN, Blind, Glassdoor, very rarely do I remember seeing an engineer that would openly state that they love working there.

by aantix 5y ago

Agree. Looking at HN, Blind, Glassdoor, very rarely do I remember seeing an engineer that would openly state that they love working there.

Kranar 5y ago

Plenty of software developers would kill to work for Amazon, sure the work conditions and prestige is not as great as the other big companies but Amazon still pays pretty darn well. The big issue is the developers Amazon wants to hire are not the same as the developers who want to work there, so Amazon is basically paying a huge premium to attract people. That said let's not kid ourselves, the majority of people at Amazon are happy to be there, get paid very well, and are reasonably competent.

aantix 5y ago
Clearly with their base pay and RSUs, they still weren't offering enough. A doubling of base pay means that they realize they have been way off the mark.
munk-a 5y ago
I don't know how well that impression is born out by the generally short tenures and increasing growth of base pay that we're observing. Lots of decently large tech firms pay well beyond Amazon's rates and manage to retain people for far longer - this move specifically seems to be highlighting that the compensation Amazon was offering was insufficient for the pain employees were being burdened with. I do also think FAANG built up a reputation for inaccessibility to intermediate devs which gives them an air of prestige but also significantly impairs their hiring ability.

davidrupp 5y ago

I'm a senior SDE (L6) @ AMZN (currently IMDb) with seven years tenure -- opinions my own, obvs. I've had some negative experiences with individuals / organizations over that time, but on balance I can honestly say I love working here. It is quite possible to get maneuvered into a bad situation such that you end up having to leave through no real fault of your own, but it's also possible to find a good fit and do exactly what the motto says: "Work hard, have fun, make history".

yolovoe 5y ago

I work at Amazon. Less than 2 yoe but is comp is solid, even compared to Goog and Meta, perhaps cause I'm currently top of band. Wlb is amazing. Did 5-6 hour days on last team. Coworkers were chill. Now I work more (6-7 hour days) cause I'm on a systems team, but I get to learn a lot about how EC2 servers are run. My manager cares about my learning and I get basically an hour a week with the tech lead where I can ask them questions. Have been able to meet a couple principal engineers and they've even reviewed some of my work. I have nothing bad to shared about my experience so far. Did I mention I don't have deadlines?

Raptor22 5y ago
I would kill to not have deadlines... I also work here heh