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> You’ve come across the gentrifiers before, I’m sure. They browse the front page of reddit and the trending tab of YouTube, buy Ruth Bader Ginsberg figurines a

> You’ve come across the gentrifiers before, I’m sure. They browse the front page of reddit and the trending tab of YouTube, buy Ruth Bader Ginsberg figurines and wear Che Guevara T-shirts. So, gentrifiers are generally made out of straw is the take-away? likewise, "no one wants to mine coal" me, I do, I wanna do that, I wanna work out the refining process, I want to lathe 1000 of the same thing. Not every personality is what the author can come up with in his head, other kinds of people exist too - - - Moderators are meant to keep their subreddits on track, the moderators found it benificial to themselves to not do so, for number-go-up reasons, at that point, the moderators' views no longer represent the community's views, this is decided by the moderators' actions or rather intentional inaction

HideousKojima 5y ago
>likewise, "no one wants to mine coal" me, I do, I wanna do that, I wanna work out the refining process, I want to lathe 1000 of the same thing. Not every personality is what the author can come up with in his head, other kinds of people exist too You may want to, but the kind of people who talk in online discussions about "What will your job be after the revolution" overwhelmingly do not.
- yk 5y ago
  The radical position is, if nobody wants to mine coal, then we will need to either not use coal (great idea, saves a lot of Co2), or make the coal mining job better. Of course nobody wants the dirty, unhealthy and dangerous job that capitalism designed, but that does not imply that it is impossible to design a job that extracts coal and people genuinely enjoy.
  - s1artibartfast 5y ago
    The challenge is who "designs" the job to make coal mining more enjoyable in a specialized economy. In Capitalism, you raise pay until there is incentive to do the work. In a communist command economy, some authority decides if more coal miners are needed and takes from some people to gives to coal workers until there are enough workers. In a cashless anarchists society, I guess you hope that someone invents something to improve conditions?
    - yk 5y ago
      Presumably whoever thinks that it is important to mine coal.
      - s1artibartfast 5y ago
        So in the 3rd case, someone needs to provide food, shelter, and other needs for someone while they work on this tough coal problem. That means that others in society need to either 1) agree and recognize that it is a problem that needs to be solved and voluntarily support them or 2) Trust that whatever people choose to do with their time must be important for the greater good and support them in whatever they do. I guess the Annaco-communist answer would be the latter.
        yk 5y ago
        Yes, in Marxist terms you need to produce the surplus value to sustain development. So whoever wants to exclusively work on that coal problem presumably has to convince others to help him, either by providing supplies or by helping directly.

HideousKojima 5y ago

>likewise, "no one wants to mine coal" me, I do, I wanna do that, I wanna work out the refining process, I want to lathe 1000 of the same thing. Not every personality is what the author can come up with in his head, other kinds of people exist too You may want to, but the kind of people who talk in online discussions about "What will your job be after the revolution" overwhelmingly do not.

yk 5y ago
The radical position is, if nobody wants to mine coal, then we will need to either not use coal (great idea, saves a lot of Co2), or make the coal mining job better. Of course nobody wants the dirty, unhealthy and dangerous job that capitalism designed, but that does not imply that it is impossible to design a job that extracts coal and people genuinely enjoy.
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  The challenge is who "designs" the job to make coal mining more enjoyable in a specialized economy. In Capitalism, you raise pay until there is incentive to do the work. In a communist command economy, some authority decides if more coal miners are needed and takes from some people to gives to coal workers until there are enough workers. In a cashless anarchists society, I guess you hope that someone invents something to improve conditions?
  - yk 5y ago
    Presumably whoever thinks that it is important to mine coal.
    - s1artibartfast 5y ago
      So in the 3rd case, someone needs to provide food, shelter, and other needs for someone while they work on this tough coal problem. That means that others in society need to either 1) agree and recognize that it is a problem that needs to be solved and voluntarily support them or 2) Trust that whatever people choose to do with their time must be important for the greater good and support them in whatever they do. I guess the Annaco-communist answer would be the latter.
      - yk 5y ago
        Yes, in Marxist terms you need to produce the surplus value to sustain development. So whoever wants to exclusively work on that coal problem presumably has to convince others to help him, either by providing supplies or by helping directly.