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> Work-life balance at Shopify is unparalleled. Work is synchronous-ish but it's super easy to run out for some afternoon errands or a quick workout. Shopify is

> Work-life balance at Shopify is unparalleled. Work is synchronous-ish but it's super easy to run out for some afternoon errands or a quick workout. Shopify is pretty visionary here - turns out happy and healthy employees do better work than ones that are chained to a desk all day Is this really that unusual? I feel like most places I've worked, as long as I made it to meetings nobody cared if I stepped out for an hour to run errands or something.

MattGaiser 5y ago
A lot of it depends on how much you are willing to extract it from the company.
PragmaticPulp 5y ago
It’s not unusual at all. It would actually be more strange in 2022 if a tech company was trying to micromanage every hour of every day of each tech employee.
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  It need not be micromanage, but could rather just be stuffing your day so full that you have no choice but to work continuously.
- aiisjustanif 5y ago
  Go try Amazon and many companies aren’t “Tech” companies.
altdataseller 5y ago
Sounds like table stakes to me in 2022. If any company tried to micro-manage me, I would be out in a second
- aiisjustanif 5y ago
  That would majority of company in the Fortune 500 and dependent on your job function in IT.
SkyPuncher 5y ago
Relative to the average office job, yes. In a tech-centric job, this is pretty common.
joshcsimmons 5y ago
This is good to hear! I’ve worked positions before where this definitely wasn’t the case (had to use limited PTO for doctor’s appts). Maybe this is something that’s changed significantly since COVID
blitzar 5y ago
> Is this really that unusual? Extremely. Lets obviously ignore the large percentage of the workforce that are waiting tables, stacking shelves, have to use a punchcard and have their hours tracked to the nearest minute etc. for whom stepping out for an hour to run an errand probably means they get paid a couple of hours less at best or fired if its done without the permission of their supervisor ... Professional 'knowledge' workers - there are workplaces where its ok, there are workplaces where you would put your career into reverse at 100mph by not being present from 7am to 8pm for your 9am-5pm job.
geodel 5y ago
> Is this really that unusual? You'd be surprised. So many places it is not the thing. Or it is made hasslesome with team calendar update plus email to manager with justification and so on.
odiroot 5y ago
I'd say that's more or less a standard thing in EU, for desk jobs.
dgellow 5y ago
Quite standard in Western Europe
mrtranscendence 5y ago
I can only speak for myself, but it doesn't feel that uncommon. It probably depends on the kind of business you're working in. I've heard bad things about finance, for one. Having worked for almost ten years now, I've always been able to take off an hour here and there without having to battle for it or come back with doctor's notes. When I was a contractor I'd generally have to tell someone and make up the time, but even then it was never a huge deal. Where I work now no one cares what I do at all as long as I'm reasonably productive. Technically your work hours here have to encompass (IIRC) 11-3 I think? Or 9-3? Something like that. So no working third shift, I guess. But it's pretty flexible.

MattGaiser 5y ago

A lot of it depends on how much you are willing to extract it from the company.

PragmaticPulp 5y ago

It’s not unusual at all. It would actually be more strange in 2022 if a tech company was trying to micromanage every hour of every day of each tech employee.

MattGaiser 5y ago
It need not be micromanage, but could rather just be stuffing your day so full that you have no choice but to work continuously.
aiisjustanif 5y ago
Go try Amazon and many companies aren’t “Tech” companies.

altdataseller 5y ago

Sounds like table stakes to me in 2022. If any company tried to micro-manage me, I would be out in a second

aiisjustanif 5y ago
That would majority of company in the Fortune 500 and dependent on your job function in IT.

SkyPuncher 5y ago

Relative to the average office job, yes. In a tech-centric job, this is pretty common.

joshcsimmons 5y ago

This is good to hear! I’ve worked positions before where this definitely wasn’t the case (had to use limited PTO for doctor’s appts). Maybe this is something that’s changed significantly since COVID

blitzar 5y ago

> Is this really that unusual? Extremely. Lets obviously ignore the large percentage of the workforce that are waiting tables, stacking shelves, have to use a punchcard and have their hours tracked to the nearest minute etc. for whom stepping out for an hour to run an errand probably means they get paid a couple of hours less at best or fired if its done without the permission of their supervisor ... Professional 'knowledge' workers - there are workplaces where its ok, there are workplaces where you would put your career into reverse at 100mph by not being present from 7am to 8pm for your 9am-5pm job.

geodel 5y ago

> Is this really that unusual? You'd be surprised. So many places it is not the thing. Or it is made hasslesome with team calendar update plus email to manager with justification and so on.

odiroot 5y ago

I'd say that's more or less a standard thing in EU, for desk jobs.

dgellow 5y ago

Quite standard in Western Europe

mrtranscendence 5y ago

I can only speak for myself, but it doesn't feel that uncommon. It probably depends on the kind of business you're working in. I've heard bad things about finance, for one. Having worked for almost ten years now, I've always been able to take off an hour here and there without having to battle for it or come back with doctor's notes. When I was a contractor I'd generally have to tell someone and make up the time, but even then it was never a huge deal. Where I work now no one cares what I do at all as long as I'm reasonably productive. Technically your work hours here have to encompass (IIRC) 11-3 I think? Or 9-3? Something like that. So no working third shift, I guess. But it's pretty flexible.