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>Does a year of experience at FANG == a year of experience at WITCH? What is WITCH?

by Rebelgecko 5y ago

gostsamo 5y ago
https://www.which.co.uk/ https://www.which.co.uk/ edit: fixed url
- __float 5y ago
  even with the "fixed" URL, this is not what the author meant. Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant, HCL.
  - gostsamo 5y ago
    Possible. I acted on a hunch thinking that it is a typo. He talks about non-tech roles and I made the connection with the e-commers -> consummer protection.
karanbhangui 5y ago
I had to look this up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27571707 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27571707 W- Wipro I- Infosys T- TCS C- Cognizant H- HCL A- Accenture India.
- fredophile 5y ago
  Disappointing. I was hoping it referred to working with someone like this [0]. [0] https://aphyr.com/posts/341-hexing-the-technical-interview https://aphyr.com/posts/341-hexing-the-technical-interview
sebdufbeau 5y ago
Might be wrong, but I think it's referring to Indian consulting companies (Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant and HCL)
deleted 5y ago
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liuw 5y ago
Wipro Infosys TCS Cognizant HCL
neogodless 5y ago
The great part was all the spooky results when I googled "fang witch" to try to figure that out.
- chihuahua 5y ago
  Come for the ragequit blog post, stay for the fang witch images.
thrownaway9 5y ago
Anyone who has worked with "WITCH" knows there is no comparison here. WITCH operates at high scale, low cost, low skill, low quality contractors. They cannot be compared to full time FAANG engineers.
- mrsuprawsm 5y ago
  That was the purpose of the parent article's assertion, to illustrate that same point.
- shubb 5y ago
  I see threads elsewhere full of "I joined a FANG hoping to make amazing algorithms and push computer science forward but I'm just building dashboards and changing button colours", so I'm not 100% sure the work content is different. In 5 years, I'd expect a WITCH engineer to be exposed to and deeply understand many industries and companies. I'd expect them to learn to handle stakeholders as well as code. I'd expect them to be exposed to many different vendors and tech stacks. But mostly I'd expect them to get really good at making a big impact very quickly, with limited time and people. When I compare that to a guy getting paid $1 million a year to run a team of 4 people who build youtube revenue dashboards or something, adding one graph a month, I know who would want working on project I cared about. The WITCH engineer was just unwise enough to be born in India right? Probably went to the top schools there, has an MBA and a masters in compsci... Just... Indian, so worth less for some reason.
  - thrownaway9 5y ago
    > "The WITCH engineer was just unwise enough to be born in India right? Probably went to the top schools there, has an MBA and a masters in compsci... Just... Indian, so worth less for some reason." The comparison is between FAANG FTE and WITCH contractor. This isn't to do with nationality or birthplace. There are many Indian FAANG FTEs just as there are many American and European WITCH contractors.
    - chihuahua 5y ago
      And indeed I have worked with many outstanding FTE engineers at 3 FAAMG companies who were born in India, and are very highly paid. I also worked with some good WITCH contractors at those same companies.
ChrisArchitect 5y ago
..and can we talk about how it's weird the author calls it FANG and not FAANG? Seems that's been more common for a few years at least. Minor point I know but threw me off on first read

>Does a year of experience at FANG == a year of experience at WITCH? What is WITCH?

gostsamo 5y ago

https://www.which.co.uk/ https://www.which.co.uk/ edit: fixed url

__float 5y ago
even with the "fixed" URL, this is not what the author meant. Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant, HCL.
- gostsamo 5y ago
  Possible. I acted on a hunch thinking that it is a typo. He talks about non-tech roles and I made the connection with the e-commers -> consummer protection.

karanbhangui 5y ago

I had to look this up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27571707 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27571707 W- Wipro I- Infosys T- TCS C- Cognizant H- HCL A- Accenture India.

fredophile 5y ago
Disappointing. I was hoping it referred to working with someone like this [0]. [0] https://aphyr.com/posts/341-hexing-the-technical-interview https://aphyr.com/posts/341-hexing-the-technical-interview

sebdufbeau 5y ago

Might be wrong, but I think it's referring to Indian consulting companies (Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant and HCL)

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liuw 5y ago

Wipro Infosys TCS Cognizant HCL

neogodless 5y ago

The great part was all the spooky results when I googled "fang witch" to try to figure that out.

chihuahua 5y ago
Come for the ragequit blog post, stay for the fang witch images.

thrownaway9 5y ago

Anyone who has worked with "WITCH" knows there is no comparison here. WITCH operates at high scale, low cost, low skill, low quality contractors. They cannot be compared to full time FAANG engineers.

mrsuprawsm 5y ago
That was the purpose of the parent article's assertion, to illustrate that same point.
shubb 5y ago
I see threads elsewhere full of "I joined a FANG hoping to make amazing algorithms and push computer science forward but I'm just building dashboards and changing button colours", so I'm not 100% sure the work content is different. In 5 years, I'd expect a WITCH engineer to be exposed to and deeply understand many industries and companies. I'd expect them to learn to handle stakeholders as well as code. I'd expect them to be exposed to many different vendors and tech stacks. But mostly I'd expect them to get really good at making a big impact very quickly, with limited time and people. When I compare that to a guy getting paid $1 million a year to run a team of 4 people who build youtube revenue dashboards or something, adding one graph a month, I know who would want working on project I cared about. The WITCH engineer was just unwise enough to be born in India right? Probably went to the top schools there, has an MBA and a masters in compsci... Just... Indian, so worth less for some reason.
- thrownaway9 5y ago
  > "The WITCH engineer was just unwise enough to be born in India right? Probably went to the top schools there, has an MBA and a masters in compsci... Just... Indian, so worth less for some reason." The comparison is between FAANG FTE and WITCH contractor. This isn't to do with nationality or birthplace. There are many Indian FAANG FTEs just as there are many American and European WITCH contractors.
  - chihuahua 5y ago
    And indeed I have worked with many outstanding FTE engineers at 3 FAAMG companies who were born in India, and are very highly paid. I also worked with some good WITCH contractors at those same companies.

ChrisArchitect 5y ago

..and can we talk about how it's weird the author calls it FANG and not FAANG? Seems that's been more common for a few years at least. Minor point I know but threw me off on first read