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With Linux 5.17 S0ix maybe works: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Other-Linux-Discussions/Linux-S0ix-support-on-AMD-platforms/m-p/5098254?page=1 https://forums.le
by ho_schi 5y ago
With Linux 5.17 S0ix maybe works:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Other-Linux-Discussions/Linux-S0ix-support-on-AMD-platforms/m-p/5098254?page=1 https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Other-Linux-Discussions/Linux-S...
With Linux 5.17 AMD should provided also something similar to pstate, which should improve the things further:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-P-State-Linux-5.17 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-P-St...
But Lenovo is still struggling:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lenovo-AMD-PP-Not-Working https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lenovo-A...
I love ThinkPads. We've four in the family. Reasons:
* Haptic feedback of keyboard
* TrackPoint
* Maintenance Manual and spare part available for at least five years (ten would be better)
* Linux Support and Certification
Sadly the blog reflects some of my findings, I'm using myself an X220 with Linux. I want to buy a new one but Lenovo makes it hard. The old seven row keyboard has a better layout, RJ45 is available, a nice palmrest, the battery is replaceable and the main-memory not soldered. Right when four core CPUs where available, Lenovo decided to remove the card-slot on the side and the RJ45. Luckily there are some improvements, they put a gap between [HOME, END, INSERT, DELETE] on the six row keyboard, X13 Gen2 finally provides a 16:10 display again (Wohoo!) and it is more sturdy then the X220. And finally decent AMD-Models are available.
Lenovo seems to follow the bad industry pratices from other manufacturers instead of looking closely why ThinkPads are superior. Internal batteries, solder main-memory, awkwardly placed card-slots, missing RJ45 are problems. They keyboard is still the top of the industry and more comfortable than many desktop keyboards, because of the precise haptic feedback and concave shaped key-caps. The substandard keyboard from Apple on the other side does provides only flat (cheap?) key-caps, no TrackPoint and has a lot of longstanding quality issues.
I'm also happily using and ThinkPad T14 Gen 1 AMD here with Linux. But from systems certificed for usage with Linux I expect more. I therefore also blame the lax requirements of Red Had and Lenovo. IBM (Red Hat), how about enforcing actual good support by Lenovo? I'm aware that all of that awkward, specially patched drivers on Windows are actually workarounds. And Microsoft enforce the sticker/label program. Maybe the complete industry should question there quality standards. I think most of power-management shall not be the duty of the operating-system but the firmware. Broken ACPI-Tables should thing of the past.
I've some Lenovo representative is reading. Most customers wont' tell you why the bought your product. But in long term the will notice the things. The will buy again if it was good. They won't tell you "keyboard has feature x" and "card-slot is placed nicely", they will just like it or not. And the server stats of ThinkVantage will most of the time not tell you anything about the Linux-Users. Most of the time not even for Windows within company networks. It is quality what make a company running for decades and not hoping on the the next industry trend.
- 24t 5y agoIt might be worth looking into the 51nb motherboard replacements if you're up for some enthusiast tinkering. I picked up an X2100 from Xue Yao last year and it's great to have modern components with the classic keyboard and chassis