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I don’t think Wayland will fail. I’ve been running it for about a year now (since Fedora 34). It’s been mostly smooth sailing, and a big quality of life improve

I don’t think Wayland will fail. I’ve been running it for about a year now (since Fedora 34). It’s been mostly smooth sailing, and a big quality of life improvement, with only a few drawbacks. (Screensharing does not work for all windows, such as my terminal.)

funcDropShadow 5y ago
Could you explain the benefits of switching to Wayland that you experienced?
- kevincox 5y ago
  - Top quality high and mixed resolution support. - Tear free rendering and capturing. - (Small) improved performance. - Games are much better behaved. I can reliably window, maximize and full-screen them. They also never mess with the display resolution. - Seems to have less windows (especially hover tool tips) just hanging around. I guess the compositor can close these at the right time under Wayland. - Proper secure screen locking. (I think GNOME + GDM can do something safe on X but most display managers + lock screens can't cooperate well enough to manage this.) Honestly it is nothing major (except the mixed dpi stuff) but a nice step up. And if the X devs say that X is unmaintainable and this is going to lead to many improvements and be able to be maintained for the next age of displays on Linux I'm happy to make the switch now that it is the default and I am not aware of any problems for my workflow.
  - funcDropShadow 5y ago
    Thanks, I get all the arguments from the developers and that it should be better in principle in the long run. But I need screen sharing, screen shots, and of course xsnow ;-)
    - kevincox 5y ago
      Screen sharing and screenshots have been working perfectly for me (in fact screenshots are actually better with multi-monitors than X because they don't mess up the off-screen space). No comment about xsnow ;) I think screenshots work out-of the box for most compositors and screenshot tools but depending on your distro you may need to configure xdg-desktop-portal for screen recording. On my distro (NixOS) this seems to work on GNOME with no additional config. For NixOS configuring GNOME which uses Wayland by default (if your GPU supports it) is just: services.xserver = { enable = true; displayManager.gdm.enable = true; desktopManager.gnome.enable = true; }; I'm not aware of any major issues with this and in my experience provides a better experience than using X.
- christophilus 5y ago
  Mostly what the other commenter said. Smooth scrolling / no tearing, no weird visual glitches (like the big black rings around all windows when changing resolution or logging out), etc.
thraxil 5y ago
Yeah, I've been on Wayland and Sway for almost two years now. Screen sharing with Zoom was hit or miss for a while but is now relatively reliable (at least as much as Zoom is reliable). I can't really quantify anything, but it definitely feels like better performance and reliability than I used to get with Xorg (on a dual 4K monitor setup).

funcDropShadow 5y ago

Could you explain the benefits of switching to Wayland that you experienced?

kevincox 5y ago
- Top quality high and mixed resolution support. - Tear free rendering and capturing. - (Small) improved performance. - Games are much better behaved. I can reliably window, maximize and full-screen them. They also never mess with the display resolution. - Seems to have less windows (especially hover tool tips) just hanging around. I guess the compositor can close these at the right time under Wayland. - Proper secure screen locking. (I think GNOME + GDM can do something safe on X but most display managers + lock screens can't cooperate well enough to manage this.) Honestly it is nothing major (except the mixed dpi stuff) but a nice step up. And if the X devs say that X is unmaintainable and this is going to lead to many improvements and be able to be maintained for the next age of displays on Linux I'm happy to make the switch now that it is the default and I am not aware of any problems for my workflow.
- funcDropShadow 5y ago
  Thanks, I get all the arguments from the developers and that it should be better in principle in the long run. But I need screen sharing, screen shots, and of course xsnow ;-)
  - kevincox 5y ago
    Screen sharing and screenshots have been working perfectly for me (in fact screenshots are actually better with multi-monitors than X because they don't mess up the off-screen space). No comment about xsnow ;) I think screenshots work out-of the box for most compositors and screenshot tools but depending on your distro you may need to configure xdg-desktop-portal for screen recording. On my distro (NixOS) this seems to work on GNOME with no additional config. For NixOS configuring GNOME which uses Wayland by default (if your GPU supports it) is just: services.xserver = { enable = true; displayManager.gdm.enable = true; desktopManager.gnome.enable = true; }; I'm not aware of any major issues with this and in my experience provides a better experience than using X.
christophilus 5y ago
Mostly what the other commenter said. Smooth scrolling / no tearing, no weird visual glitches (like the big black rings around all windows when changing resolution or logging out), etc.

thraxil 5y ago

Yeah, I've been on Wayland and Sway for almost two years now. Screen sharing with Zoom was hit or miss for a while but is now relatively reliable (at least as much as Zoom is reliable). I can't really quantify anything, but it definitely feels like better performance and reliability than I used to get with Xorg (on a dual 4K monitor setup).