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It was my second decade and definitely worse then the first one. They went from being able to use those machines long after the three-year cycle to them barely

It was my second decade and definitely worse then the first one. They went from being able to use those machines long after the three-year cycle to them barely lasting those 3 years. The cherry on top was me not being able to replace a faulty keybord due to the zif connector breaking on a light touch. This is not entirelly lenovo's fault though - the latest T-series are eyeing 1 kg and with the laws of physics not having changed, it is impossible to deliver the same sturdiness. My next one is going to be a P-series. Let's hope it still has some quality.

michaelerule 5y ago
I've been working on a P50 since 2016; It is holding up. Flaws: - There is cosmetic degradation - The laptop is gradually losing hassle-free hardware support from the latest popular Linux distributions. (Trackpoint crashes randomly in Ubuntu; Sleep/power management has never worked properly). - I had to replace the keyboard after 3 years (the keys mechanically wore out and became loose). I had difficulty finding new replacement keyboards recently (although this is more an indictment of the UK's trade situation). - The buttons on the main touchpad are slowly failing; Near as I can tell it isn't possible to replace these without replacing the entire "top case". I use an external mouse to slow the decline.
- zozbot234 5y ago
  > The laptop is gradually losing hassle-free hardware support from the latest popular Linux distributions. That's disappointing. How well do Debian and Fedora hold up from that POV? Even if support has also regressed there, those are probably the distributions where tracing and reporting that regression would be easiest.
geenew 5y ago
Fwiw I’ve used a P50s and dislike the keyboard and track point greatly. The keyboard isn’t as stiff, and the track point feels imprecise. There is much more flex in the frame than older (t450, t500, x61) thinkpads that I’ve used, as well. This is only one datapoint, though, and that particular machine was a hand me down that could have been a lemon. I’m much happier with the t450.

michaelerule 5y ago

I've been working on a P50 since 2016; It is holding up. Flaws: - There is cosmetic degradation - The laptop is gradually losing hassle-free hardware support from the latest popular Linux distributions. (Trackpoint crashes randomly in Ubuntu; Sleep/power management has never worked properly). - I had to replace the keyboard after 3 years (the keys mechanically wore out and became loose). I had difficulty finding new replacement keyboards recently (although this is more an indictment of the UK's trade situation). - The buttons on the main touchpad are slowly failing; Near as I can tell it isn't possible to replace these without replacing the entire "top case". I use an external mouse to slow the decline.

zozbot234 5y ago
> The laptop is gradually losing hassle-free hardware support from the latest popular Linux distributions. That's disappointing. How well do Debian and Fedora hold up from that POV? Even if support has also regressed there, those are probably the distributions where tracing and reporting that regression would be easiest.

geenew 5y ago

Fwiw I’ve used a P50s and dislike the keyboard and track point greatly. The keyboard isn’t as stiff, and the track point feels imprecise. There is much more flex in the frame than older (t450, t500, x61) thinkpads that I’ve used, as well. This is only one datapoint, though, and that particular machine was a hand me down that could have been a lemon. I’m much happier with the t450.