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Why did my 99% white, upper middle class school district have a DARE program? How did that serve to advance the cause of marginalizing minority groups?
by bradleyjg 5y ago
Why did my 99% white, upper middle class school district have a DARE program? How did that serve to advance the cause of marginalizing minority groups?
- cjbgkagh 5y agoInteresting logic; maybe they didn’t want to marginalize the non minorities.... Also, it makes sense to publicly do one thing and privately do another. DARE campaign was Reagan era, when they were importing cocaine by the plane load.
- reaperducer 5y agoHow did that serve to advance the cause of marginalizing minority groups? Don't bother pointing out facts or using logic. Any time someone mentions drugs on HN, the usual group of addicts-in-denial show up parroting the same tired and disproven talking points that High Times magazine has been flogging for the last 40 years.
- ohyeshedid 5y agoIndoctrination.
- bradleyjg 5y agoWell, exactly. They tried to indoctrinate kids not to take drugs and it failed miserably. So the claim that it’s super easy for the government to shift culture seems wrong, no?
- ohyeshedid 5y agoRather than making a bigger picture point out of a single example, I'm thinking; In the US, dependent on location, a person may be living under several different governments. Governments recognize and/or create holidays, and holidays can go on to be cultural events. Governments organize and finance festivals and events, which can and do become culture of a place or people. They built statues, museums, parks, libraries, theatres, etc; all with several different levels and layers of culture. You'd need to start defining parameters of what is a government, what is a culture shift, etc.
- bradleyjg 5y agoOkay. If the US government, in the form of the NIH, spent 1.8 billion dollars trying to get people to exercise more do you think we’d see substantially more exercise happening than we would have otherwise?
- ohyeshedid 5y agoPersonally, I would doubt "substantial" increases, but that would depend on how you'd want to define that and such. That doesn't mean they can't, won't, and don't, shift cultures in many other ways.
- acchow 5y agoThe overall war on drugs waged by the government was about power and control, but that doesn't mean individual persons and communities couldn't decide for themselves what they were fighting for.
- dragonwriter 5y ago> Why did my 99% white, upper middle class school district have a DARE program? How did that serve to advance the cause of marginalizing minority groups DARE is a program to increase public positive image of, deference to, and political support for the arbitrary action of police. (And t it's only demonstrated effect is on attitudes toward police; it doesn't have any effect on drug use.) How that advances the cause of marginalizing minority groups is left as an exercise for the reader.
- bradleyjg 5y agoSo the claim is it was deliberately ineffective at getting kids not to take drugs because …?
- dragonwriter 5y ago> So the claim is it was deliberately ineffective at getting kids not to take drugs because …? The claim is keeping kids off drugs was probably never the real goal, and even if it was the program continued to expand to new places and be funded in existing places long after it was proven ineffective as anything but pro-police propaganda, which wasn't an accident by decision-makers. Which reveals that even if keeping kids off drugs was once part of the motivation, it wasn't what sustained the program.