> Just don't take away autonomy out of spite. It's not a question of taking away autonomy, and there's certainly no spite about it. If you want to get around t

> Just don't take away autonomy out of spite. It's not a question of taking away autonomy, and there's certainly no spite about it. If you want to get around town, you have bikes or e-bikes. If you want to get out of urban centers, you can always rent a car at the periphery. I've lived in SF for 10 years with no car and have never felt unable to do anything I've wanted at any time. > If you want to pick blackberries at the local farm, you need a passenger car. Not really, the farm can have a bus with regularly scheduled pick-ups or routes like a lot of the Napa wineries do.