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Von der Leyen keeps her SMS correspondence with Pfizer management secret, but my correspondence with my girlfriend somehow has to become public record (via anti
by turbinerneiter 5y ago
Von der Leyen keeps her SMS correspondence with Pfizer management secret, but my correspondence with my girlfriend somehow has to become public record (via anti-encryption laws and the resulting data leaks).
- peoplefromibiza 5y agosecrecy and privacy are not the same thing SMSs have never been secret, but are still private .
- stjohnswarts 5y agoSure, but secrecy certainly permits privacy. Privacy can be forced (encryption) or permitted (must get a warrant otherwise private). One cannot deny the relationship.
- peoplefromibiza 5y agoLaws permit privacy. Secrecy doesn't imply privacy, you can do things secretly, like for example bring weed with you in a secret pocket, that doesn't mean police can't stop you and do a search on you if a dog smells it. They can't ask you to reveal who you're casually talking on the phone though without a warrant, even if the conversation is not secret. You can use encryption to enforce secrecy, that's true, but not privacy. If you are constantly messaging with a known drug dealer or someone wiretapped, even if the conversation is secret, your right to privacy goes out the window. Privacy means you close the door when you go to the bathroom, secrecy means you don't tell anybody where are you going and why.
- dijit 5y agoDoes Von Der Leyen support this bill? It’s a little moot if she doesn’t.
- hulitu 5y agoWell, welcome to privacy laws in Germany. You have the right to privacy if you are in politics ( national security) or rich ( privacy). If you are poor you have Schufa, deutschland card, etc.