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So the FDS feature is tied to the car, rather than your personal account with Tesla? In that case, is it possible to transfer the deposit for FSD to the new Tes

by spuz 5y ago

So the FDS feature is tied to the car, rather than your personal account with Tesla? In that case, is it possible to transfer the deposit for FSD to the new Tesla owner? If so then presumably you could choose to reflect that in the price you choose to sell the car.

bink 5y ago
Tesla has been removing the features upon resale. So these features are really just a license you purchase to use while you own the car.
root_axis 5y ago
It's actually worse than that. The FSD is tied to your account and the car, i.e. if you sell the car to a new owner they will have to purchase FSD separately and if you buy a new Tesla you cannot transfer FSD from the old car to the new one.
- yreg 5y ago
  That's not really true. If you sell your Tesla with FSD beta directly to me, I'll keep the FSD beta. If you trade it in to Tesla, then they might decide to remove the package and resell the car without it but I don't see how that would be your concern.
jmacd 5y ago
yes. It is probably one of the worst values in the entire automotive industry. They always have this "buy now, the price will go up later!" but I had to ask myself: how much can the price go up? It's not going to be a $20,000 feature any time soon. I figured I was risking a couple thousand dollars that I would need to pay to upgrade later.
- yreg 5y ago
  If Tesla eventually solves FSD (which is not a given) they might stop selling the ad-on package altogether and just charge a per mile subscription instead. Then all of these old Teslas with FSD for life will become rare, similar to the Teslas witch unlimited free supercharging.
  - brokenmachine 5y ago
    There really is a sucker born every minute.
    - consumer451 5y ago
      While true, on a much smaller scale I experienced the same benefit from being grandfathered in to the old Blink for Home security cameras. I have full service for free for life, as opposed to $10/month. A giant online stink was raised to keep Amazon to Blink's word after the acquisition, but it worked.
      - brokenmachine 5y ago
        Yes, but in that case you've actually bought a service that already exists, not vaporware that will never exist.

by spuz 5y ago

bink 5y ago

Tesla has been removing the features upon resale. So these features are really just a license you purchase to use while you own the car.

root_axis 5y ago

It's actually worse than that. The FSD is tied to your account and the car, i.e. if you sell the car to a new owner they will have to purchase FSD separately and if you buy a new Tesla you cannot transfer FSD from the old car to the new one.

yreg 5y ago
That's not really true. If you sell your Tesla with FSD beta directly to me, I'll keep the FSD beta. If you trade it in to Tesla, then they might decide to remove the package and resell the car without it but I don't see how that would be your concern.

jmacd 5y ago

yes. It is probably one of the worst values in the entire automotive industry. They always have this "buy now, the price will go up later!" but I had to ask myself: how much can the price go up? It's not going to be a $20,000 feature any time soon. I figured I was risking a couple thousand dollars that I would need to pay to upgrade later.

yreg 5y ago
If Tesla eventually solves FSD (which is not a given) they might stop selling the ad-on package altogether and just charge a per mile subscription instead. Then all of these old Teslas with FSD for life will become rare, similar to the Teslas witch unlimited free supercharging.
- brokenmachine 5y ago
  There really is a sucker born every minute.
  - consumer451 5y ago
    While true, on a much smaller scale I experienced the same benefit from being grandfathered in to the old Blink for Home security cameras. I have full service for free for life, as opposed to $10/month. A giant online stink was raised to keep Amazon to Blink's word after the acquisition, but it worked.
    - brokenmachine 5y ago
      Yes, but in that case you've actually bought a service that already exists, not vaporware that will never exist.