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> it is really turning its customers into real-life crash dummies. Not just the customers, anybody else unfortunate enough to share the road with them. As a f
by vanilla_nut 5y ago
> it is really turning its customers into real-life crash dummies.
Not just the customers, anybody else unfortunate enough to share the road with them.
As a frequent pedestrian/bicyclist in my city, Teslas scare the shit out of me. Even worse, when Tesla drivers cause accidents, the response is typically complete shock and disbelief that FSD failed them. And an utter lack of responsibility for the damage and/or injury they caused. Because obviously they weren't driving, it was the car!
- HarryHirsch 5y agoSanhedrin 91b applies: https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.91b?lang=bi https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.91b?lang=bi Both Elon Musk and the driver are equally at fault and need both go to jail, they enable each other to make the public roadways unsafe.
- epgui 5y agoWhy do you feel like you have to bring Judaism / religion into this conversation?
- HarryHirsch 5y agoThe Talmud explains Jewish legal concepts, how they were used and applied in practice. It's not an attempt to drag religion in, rather to point out that 1500 years ago the Jewish Sages recognized that folks who enable each other are both guilty and need to be judged together. The plausible denability and diffusion of responsibility that you see so often nowadays is pernicious to society.
- olliej 5y agoHuh, I don’t recall seeing the bit in the law about religion being involved in the US legal system. Seriously injecting religion by posting irrelevant scripture in a discussion of legal liability is purely proselytizing and an attempt to convert people.
- lolc 5y agoCut it. Citing a principle from old scripture is not proselytizing. Maybe you don't like reading old stories, but some others do. I enjoyed the read and think it's relevant to the discussion. We can choose how to look at the shared responsibility. No reason to restrict discussion to current legal doctrine.
- jaclaz 5y agoI would add that very likely that text, like many similar ones, are proto-stories, not unlike the judgement of Solomon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgement_of_Solomon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgement_of_Solomon I wouldn't be surprised if a same or similar story is present in other cultures.