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That's very disappointing to read. Imagine you are the kid which will end in prison. Wouldn't you feel betrayed from society if society can already see that yo

That's very disappointing to read. Imagine you are the kid which will end in prison. Wouldn't you feel betrayed from society if society can already see that you will end in prison and is doing nothing against it? You can we haven't accepted the right answer though: more money for education. Smaller classes, more support, proper trained psychologist

RappingBoomer 5y ago
most teachers will tell you the truth--it's there from birth, and basically incurable
- defterGoose 5y ago
  I mean...I'm kinda glad you got out of the profession...
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago
    I think it’s become tragically obvious that a whole lot of children are born to parents who should’ve never had children and have no business being parents. These children end up dumped on educators with zero support at home, and so little social system support we could also say it’s zero. This isn’t nature versus nurture per se (although I believe the data does show some ability and intelligence is genetic/inherent), but that it takes a lot for a human child to succeed unless they’re at the higher end of the bell curve (and even then it’s no guarantee).
- RappingBoomer 5y ago
  yeah, I understand your meaning, but you fail to understand the situation...did you read the article? NO ONE can do the job...
ipnon 5y ago
The United States already has below average class sizes, and spends 37% more per student than the average. There is some evidence that large class sizes produce better results, and it would seem that whatever the US spends its education money on isn't working, because our students test much lower than our investment would predict. [0] https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmd https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmd
ryan93 5y ago
The schools with the most future prisoners are already highly funded. Psychologists cant do anything for people stupid enough to end up in prison.
01100011 5y ago
I was a bad kid growing up. I ended up at a pilot program consisting of about 14 kids, mostly more screwed up than me, and about 3 psychiatrists and 5 support counselors. It did basically nothing for the kids. The thing that helped me the most was my parents moving away and putting me in normal school in a different state and peer pressure helping me be normal.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> more support Mostly outside of education. The US spends a lot on education and gets poor results for the investment because it also spends on lot on institutionalizing racism and reinforcing socioeconomic insecurity in the working class, which creates a lot for the education system to work against.

RappingBoomer 5y ago

most teachers will tell you the truth--it's there from birth, and basically incurable

defterGoose 5y ago
I mean...I'm kinda glad you got out of the profession...
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  I think it’s become tragically obvious that a whole lot of children are born to parents who should’ve never had children and have no business being parents. These children end up dumped on educators with zero support at home, and so little social system support we could also say it’s zero. This isn’t nature versus nurture per se (although I believe the data does show some ability and intelligence is genetic/inherent), but that it takes a lot for a human child to succeed unless they’re at the higher end of the bell curve (and even then it’s no guarantee).
RappingBoomer 5y ago
yeah, I understand your meaning, but you fail to understand the situation...did you read the article? NO ONE can do the job...

ipnon 5y ago

The United States already has below average class sizes, and spends 37% more per student than the average. There is some evidence that large class sizes produce better results, and it would seem that whatever the US spends its education money on isn't working, because our students test much lower than our investment would predict. [0] https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmd https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmd

ryan93 5y ago

The schools with the most future prisoners are already highly funded. Psychologists cant do anything for people stupid enough to end up in prison.

01100011 5y ago

I was a bad kid growing up. I ended up at a pilot program consisting of about 14 kids, mostly more screwed up than me, and about 3 psychiatrists and 5 support counselors. It did basically nothing for the kids. The thing that helped me the most was my parents moving away and putting me in normal school in a different state and peer pressure helping me be normal.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> more support Mostly outside of education. The US spends a lot on education and gets poor results for the investment because it also spends on lot on institutionalizing racism and reinforcing socioeconomic insecurity in the working class, which creates a lot for the education system to work against.