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>>For that to work people would have to change the way they think about microsoft as well This thread is a great example of the problems Microsoft faces among
by credo 15y ago
>>For that to work people would have to change the way they think about microsoft as well
This thread is a great example of the problems Microsoft faces among HNers, but I don't think the general public has such a blatant bias against Microsoft.
For instance, this topic was submitted 9 hours ago, has 128 points and is on the front page. It also has a false title.The title asserts that "Microsoft has lost $9 billion on Bing". However, the CNN article doesn't have this title. The article says that Microsoft "has lost $5.5 billion on Bing since the search service launched in June 2009".
Now, HN moderators often heavy-handedly change submission titles on the grounds that the title violates some obscure HN rule (like for example, the rule that "X ways to optimize your app" is inappropriate)
In this case, we have a much more blatant rule violation - changing the original title of the story and substituting it with a false assertion.
Yet, none of the moderators have changed the title of this story.
- cshenoy 15y agoIf you kept reading the paragraph you quote, it also says "since Microsoft began breaking out that unit's finances in 2007, the company has lost a total of $9 billion." While the title of this post is not stating a clear timeline for the loss, it still is technically correct. And the original comment you're referring to isn't stating a clear bias against Microsoft, per se. It's more that they're stating a general perception: that Microsoft is Windows and that it's mostly a desktop software provider. I think we can all agree that the general public agrees with that. Don't worry - not all of us are out to get Microsoft.
- credo 15y agoWrong again. The online services division has lost $9B since 2007. "online services division" is not the same as "Bing". It is a division which (over the years) has included several different products/services. Bing (created in 2009) is one of those services. MSN used to be (and may still be) part of that division.
- epo 15y agoAgreed, the $9Bn refers to declared losses by the online services division. However you come across as claiming that Microsoft is being victimised by a conspiracy of unreasoning and unreasonable hatred by HNers and the mods. "Blatant bias"? Really? I would suggest that people (not just HNers) know exactly what Microsoft is like and how badly they have behaved, if people are biased against Microsoft it is for a good reason. Microsoft have earned their reputation.