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The fake news about Russian submarines at Sweden coastal line was made BY sweden...do they return with that too? https://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/lory1.ethz.ch/coll
by nix23 5y ago
The fake news about Russian submarines at Sweden coastal line was made BY sweden...do they return with that too?
https://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/lory1.ethz.ch/collections/coll_india/SubmarineIncursions.html https://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/lory1.ethz.ch/collections/coll_i...
>>A Split on the Domestic Front
When taking office for his second term – which coincidentally took place during the Hårsfjärden incident – Prime Minister Olof Palme appointed Lennart Bodström as foreign minister in his government. Bodström, previously a trade union chairman, was rather inexperienced in foreign policy, leaving Palme, no doubt, with the most important aspects of foreign policy. In 1985, Bodström attended a dinner arranged by Swedish journalists at one of Sweden’s largest daily newspapers, the liberal Dagens Nyheter. The journalists represented several different right-wing newspapers. According to the journalists, during a question-and-answer session, Bodström made it clear that he “did not believe we had any submarine incursions, and if we did, they were not Soviet ones.”[4] When Bodström’s opinion was made public in newspapers, the center-right party leaders in the Swedish Parliament demanded the foreign minister’s resignation. Palme, however, defended Bodström at least through that autumn’s election, and, after a short period as minister of education, he was appointed ambassador to neighboring Norway.
>>Bodström made it clear that he “did not believe we had any submarine incursions, and if we did, they were not Soviet ones.”
- rightbyte 5y agoMany politicians didn't want there to be any Soviet uboats since they wanted to defound the army. One washed up on some rocks 5 year prior to your quote, so obvously that dude had no clue what he was talking about: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_S-363 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_S-363
- nix23 5y agoMany politicians WANTED there to be Soviet uboats so they can uphold founding off the army (it's just better when Sweden has the same enemy/fears as the US has). There i corrected it for you. >One washed up on some rocks 5 year prior to your quote Yes that's a fantastic story if you dig a bit deeper: https://www.amazon.de/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/dp/1610393589 https://www.amazon.de/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/d... But sure "that Dude" had no clue ;) EDIT: Ahh sorry it's another book..i have to search it, it's a pretty long story and nearly unbelievable but the wikipedia article give a hint about it.
- jernspett 5y agoThere is nothing about the Whiskey on the Rocks incident in your linked Blind Mans Bluff, so please elaborate. Good book, though.
- nix23 5y agoI know i have a book with it but cannot find it, however i found that looong report about it: https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reports/2007/R3776.pdf https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reports/2007/R377... EDIT: Yes i found it: The Secret War Against Sweden: US and British Submarine Deception in the 1980s (Cass Series: Naval Policy and History) https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Ola-Tunander/dp/0714682756/ref=sr_1_23?crid=3T1TUR2GLK3JN&keywords=submarine&qid=1644172824&s=books&sprefix=submarin%2Cstripbooks%2C61&sr=1-23 https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Ola-Tunander/dp/0714682756/ref=sr... It's a great book. Some Remarks on the US/UK Submarine Deception: http://www.fredsakademiet.dk/Library/Tunander.Pdf http://www.fredsakademiet.dk/Library/Tunander.Pdf