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What other option is there when the government is tone deaf? They do it in France for other things and it's quite legal when there's a union behind it. And wha
by petre 5y ago
What other option is there when the government is tone deaf? They do it in France for other things and it's quite legal when there's a union behind it.
And what will the government do if the truckers finally throw in the towel like they did in the UK (or maybe it was Polish and other Eastern European truckers who chose to operate on the mainland after Brexit)?
- rnk 5y agoThat's not what happened in the UK. There was demand for a lot of truck drivers, in the past there were a lot of immigrants who would work for low wages, but they brilliantly cut off those workers, suddenly they were not enough truck drivers. There hasn't really been this big "I am anti-vax mandate and I'm not working thing" that some people are fantasizing about.
- petre 5y agoI never said anything about mandates in the UK, probably because there weren't any. But they did cut off the truck drivers in a different way and it's not the only labour shortage they'll experience due to brexit. This is how governments create artificial labour shortages.
- sudosysgen 5y agoI worked in logistics and I can tell you that the vast majority of truckers are vaccinated. I don't think they will throw in the towel. I don't see what happened to the UK happen in Canada.
- defaultname 5y agoEvery truck union and federation has denounced the protests. Despite the protests, everything is operating logistically completely normally. It isn't "truckers". Some participants brought trucks because they a) have sleeping facilities, b) have big loud horns, c) take a lot of space and are hard to remove. That doesn't make it a trucker protest anymore than someone riding a bicycle there would make it a bicycle protest.
- nintendo1889 5y agoUnions are in bed with the government.
- ifyoubuildit 5y agoHow many people that aren't truckers just happen to have that kind of truck laying around for the occasional protest? Are you aware of the cost of a truck like that?
- defaultname 5y agoI didn't say these people don't have trucks or employment driving trucks. Clearly they do. But that the misrepresentation that they represent truckers, instead of just being some small subsection that have trucks, is misleading. Again, all logistics are happening like normal through this whole event. Cross border traffic (despite vaccine mandates on both sides) at normal levels. National traffic at normal levels. You can take virtually any field and find some subsection with these sorts of "beliefs". Coders against mandates. If someone smeared all coders because some subsection of HN stood honking horns at parliament, wouldn't that embarrass you?
- ifyoubuildit 5y agoOK, I see what you're saying now. On first read it sounded like you were saying they aren't truckers, but you're actually saying they don't represent all truckers. In reality they represent at least as many truckers as are present (and who knows how many that aren't: what a union's PR department says and what its members think aren't necessarily the same thing), and presumably a large chunk of the people out there cheering them on. If someone smeared all of a group of people for something that some individuals in that group did, I'd probably assume that their takes on things aren't very useful. I'd be frustrated to the extent that their pontificating affected my life negatively. I wouldn't be embarrassed.
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