> If someone wants to "disrupt" the automotive industry, forget about electric or self driving, build a decent car with no computer in it and no data connection

> If someone wants to "disrupt" the automotive industry, forget about electric or self driving, build a decent car with no computer in it and no data connection, that is easily maintained on the owners terms. That's all I want. I think that ship has sailed. Data is profitable and shiny tech features like remote start apps sell. I'm sure with the move to eSIM manufacturers will probably moved the connectivity to the main computer instead of a separate module like some of the models from last decade. But bicycles are unconnected, unlicensed and for the most part easily repairable. Some ebikes have connectivity with companion appa but it's easily avoided.