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Feinstein is the senator I dislike the most. Even after she complained like a baby that the FBI had surveilled her (what did she expect?) it didn't affect her p

Feinstein is the senator I dislike the most. Even after she complained like a baby that the FBI had surveilled her (what did she expect?) it didn't affect her political positions one bit. She cant loose the elections because shes a Dem from CA. She cant get primaried because shes in the hands of the SV

bsder 5y ago
> She cant loose the elections because shes a Dem from CA. She cant get primaried because shes in the hands of the SV It sounds like you need to do some research about California politics. Feinstein is by no means untouchable. And more of her support comes from Hollywood and old media than from SV. However, she does have a core in San Francisco given that's where she wound up as mayor stemming from the Moscone–Milk assassinations. California has jungle primaries so winning the primary isn't enough. In 2018, this meant that the main election was between two Democrats--Feinstein (54.2%) and de León(45.8%). This was actually a pretty solid result given that Feinstein is a strongly entrenched, party supported incumbent. And it was actually the closest election since her first. And 2018 was just the start of the progressive wing of the Democratic party getting started (that was the year that AOC got elected and surprised everybody), so a highly liberal challenger simply wasn't in the cards, yet. She will have a much tougher road in 2024, but I will be highly surprised if she even runs.
- tagoregrtst 5y ago
  Good point about CA’s primaries, I forgot about that quirk. But that only makes her permanence worse. By 2024 she might not be alive or too tiered, she’s not young, but she’s not in danger. Shes been senator since 1992! My SV comment is not that the proles (that includes tech workers) in San Fran care for her, but tech power in SV is allied with her from a decades long symbiotic relationship.
shostack 5y ago
Really? You can't think of _any_ others who have done much worse things to our country?
- tagoregrtst 5y ago
  Well theres only 100 of them. For what I care for she’s always on the other side. The only time I agreed with her was her torture work, but that revealed her hypocrisy. So, on the whole, I disagree with her and I believe her to be a massive hypocrite.
colinmhayes 5y ago
> Feinstein is the senator I dislike the most You don't mind the senators that voted to disenfranchise the millions of voters in Arizona?
- tagoregrtst 5y ago
  It follows from basic math that, if I dislike Feinstein the most, I dislike the other 99 senators less. However, it doesn't follow from: “Feinstein is the senator I dislike the most” That I don’t mind the other 99, or any subset thereof.
- nate_meurer 5y ago
  This is the kind of comment that I fucking hate the most. You've attacked OP with a stupid, bad-faith presumption that has nothing to do with their simple and straightforward statement. In case I have to spell it out for you, yes, OP can simultaneously disagree with Feinstein and with multiple other politicians.
  - colinmhayes 5y ago
    > OP can simultaneously disagree with Feinstein and with multiple other politicians. That's not what they said. They said Feinstein was worse.
    - nate_meurer 5y ago
      I see. So in your world, when I say that Trump was the worst president in history, that means that I "don't mind" Bush or Nixon? Help me understand your logic here.
    - tagoregrtst 5y ago
      Worse doesn't mean that everyone else is swell. A < B and A < 0 doesn’t imply B>0. All it implies is that A<B

bsder 5y ago

> She cant loose the elections because shes a Dem from CA. She cant get primaried because shes in the hands of the SV It sounds like you need to do some research about California politics. Feinstein is by no means untouchable. And more of her support comes from Hollywood and old media than from SV. However, she does have a core in San Francisco given that's where she wound up as mayor stemming from the Moscone–Milk assassinations. California has jungle primaries so winning the primary isn't enough. In 2018, this meant that the main election was between two Democrats--Feinstein (54.2%) and de León(45.8%). This was actually a pretty solid result given that Feinstein is a strongly entrenched, party supported incumbent. And it was actually the closest election since her first. And 2018 was just the start of the progressive wing of the Democratic party getting started (that was the year that AOC got elected and surprised everybody), so a highly liberal challenger simply wasn't in the cards, yet. She will have a much tougher road in 2024, but I will be highly surprised if she even runs.

tagoregrtst 5y ago
Good point about CA’s primaries, I forgot about that quirk. But that only makes her permanence worse. By 2024 she might not be alive or too tiered, she’s not young, but she’s not in danger. Shes been senator since 1992! My SV comment is not that the proles (that includes tech workers) in San Fran care for her, but tech power in SV is allied with her from a decades long symbiotic relationship.

shostack 5y ago

Really? You can't think of _any_ others who have done much worse things to our country?

tagoregrtst 5y ago
Well theres only 100 of them. For what I care for she’s always on the other side. The only time I agreed with her was her torture work, but that revealed her hypocrisy. So, on the whole, I disagree with her and I believe her to be a massive hypocrite.

colinmhayes 5y ago

> Feinstein is the senator I dislike the most You don't mind the senators that voted to disenfranchise the millions of voters in Arizona?

tagoregrtst 5y ago
It follows from basic math that, if I dislike Feinstein the most, I dislike the other 99 senators less. However, it doesn't follow from: “Feinstein is the senator I dislike the most” That I don’t mind the other 99, or any subset thereof.
nate_meurer 5y ago
This is the kind of comment that I fucking hate the most. You've attacked OP with a stupid, bad-faith presumption that has nothing to do with their simple and straightforward statement. In case I have to spell it out for you, yes, OP can simultaneously disagree with Feinstein and with multiple other politicians.
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  > OP can simultaneously disagree with Feinstein and with multiple other politicians. That's not what they said. They said Feinstein was worse.
  - nate_meurer 5y ago
    I see. So in your world, when I say that Trump was the worst president in history, that means that I "don't mind" Bush or Nixon? Help me understand your logic here.
  - tagoregrtst 5y ago
    Worse doesn't mean that everyone else is swell. A < B and A < 0 doesn’t imply B>0. All it implies is that A<B