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Law enforcement and IC are starting with the assumption that they are entitled to the best access they’ve ever had. Yes, things are going dark that they had acc
by bradleyjg 5y ago
Law enforcement and IC are starting with the assumption that they are entitled to the best access they’ve ever had. Yes, things are going dark that they had access to 20 years ago, but 20 years before that they didn’t have access because most of the conversations were happening face to face. At that point they needed to rely on traditional boots on the ground police/intelligence work instead of electronic backdoors. Why is it impossible for them to go back to doing things that way?
- emmelaich 5y ago> Why is it impossible for them to go back to doing things that way? Because symmetry. Criminals using e2ee are not going back. Not to support the act, but your comment doesn't really address the issue.
- bradleyjg 5y agoWhy does that matter? Cops weren’t listening to those old face to face communications. That was practically impossible which is analogous to the technical impossibility of listening in on E2EE connections. Instead they were cracking cases in other ways (physical evidence, confidential sources, etc.)
- wizzwizz4 5y agoTo play Devil's Advocate: people had to meet up for face-to-face communications, but they don't have to meet up for remote communication.
- citruscomputing 5y agoDoes the devil need an advocate?
- wizzwizz4 5y agoThe Catholic Church seems to think so, and they've got a notorious anti-Devil bias. It's useful to put forward arguments against things, even if you don't agree with them, because it helps to put into words why you don't agree with them.
- bradleyjg 5y agoThat’s a true fact but why does it make traditional policing impossible?
- zo1 5y agoWhat is "traditional policing" in your view?
- aspenmayer 5y agoWhatever it is, it isn’t a dragnet.
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- wizzwizz4 5y agoI don't think it does. We've had encrypted communications for centuries; cases have been cracked before without decoding those messages.
- nyolfen 5y agothey have more funding, power, and technology to perform their jobs than at any point in history, but cry about it because they can't spy on the entire planet by default. never compromise because the demands will never end.