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We're not even close to "all" territory. > The requirements changing for a job they may have had for decades is also a legitimate reason to be upset. People a

We're not even close to "all" territory. > The requirements changing for a job they may have had for decades is also a legitimate reason to be upset. People are fired all the time because their job requirements changed, or they were made redundant. Where have the mass protests been for that? > Let's not pretend there aren't legitimate concerns here. Some concerns are legitimate, other's are not. But occupying the nation's capitol, and assaulting people who wear masks are not a legitimate avenue to express those concerns.

naasking 5y ago
> We're not even close to "all" territory. I said trending in that direction, I didn't say we were in or close to that territory. The idea behind protests is not just to move out of some conceptual territory, but also to stop movement into such territory if we're headed in that direction. > People are fired all the time because their job requirements changed, or they were made redundant. Where have the mass protests been for that? When has there ever been talk of a society-wide policy which would forcibly unemploy 15% of the population that are otherwise fully qualified to continue to work in their current jobs? When have citizens ever had to carry papers around to enjoy the benefits of full citizenship? Let's not pretend that the scenario we find ourselves in falls well within the boundaries of precedent.
- PierceJoy 5y ago
  > The idea behind protests is not just to move out of some conceptual territory, but also to stop movement into such territory if we're headed in that direction. No, the reason for these protests is a bunch of grown adults are scared of a safe and effective vaccine in a global pandemic, and are now terrorizing downtown Ottawa. > When have citizens ever had to carry papers around to enjoy the benefits of full citizenship? Let's not pretend that the scenario we find ourselves in falls well within the boundaries of precedent. Agreed. The scale of impact of this pandemic is without precedent. Thus the response is obviously without precedent as well. I don't know why you're surprised at that.

naasking 5y ago

> We're not even close to "all" territory. I said trending in that direction, I didn't say we were in or close to that territory. The idea behind protests is not just to move out of some conceptual territory, but also to stop movement into such territory if we're headed in that direction. > People are fired all the time because their job requirements changed, or they were made redundant. Where have the mass protests been for that? When has there ever been talk of a society-wide policy which would forcibly unemploy 15% of the population that are otherwise fully qualified to continue to work in their current jobs? When have citizens ever had to carry papers around to enjoy the benefits of full citizenship? Let's not pretend that the scenario we find ourselves in falls well within the boundaries of precedent.

PierceJoy 5y ago
> The idea behind protests is not just to move out of some conceptual territory, but also to stop movement into such territory if we're headed in that direction. No, the reason for these protests is a bunch of grown adults are scared of a safe and effective vaccine in a global pandemic, and are now terrorizing downtown Ottawa. > When have citizens ever had to carry papers around to enjoy the benefits of full citizenship? Let's not pretend that the scenario we find ourselves in falls well within the boundaries of precedent. Agreed. The scale of impact of this pandemic is without precedent. Thus the response is obviously without precedent as well. I don't know why you're surprised at that.