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It isn't forced.

by PierceJoy 5y ago

It isn't forced.

throwawaysea 5y ago
- PierceJoy 5y ago
  It's literally not forced. There are many jobs available that don't require a vaccine.
gjsman-1000 5y ago
- dang 5y ago
  Please stop taking HN threads further into flamewar hell. A comment like this stands out even in a thread as intense as this one. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: I also had to ask you this just recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29969188 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29969188 - and before that as well. We ban accounts that don't heed these warnings. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30226201 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30226201 for a gloss on what is intended.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    I apologize for both incidents and will try to maintain respect and provide more thoughtful comments in the future.
- PierceJoy 5y ago
  > Cool, imagine if I passed a law saying donate 20% of your life savings to Trump or go to jail. Don’t worry, you aren’t forced to, by that logic. But the threat of jail is actually being forced. No on is going to jail for being unvaccinated. Are you equating finding another job to being incarcerated? > Or in a more realistic world from the past, you’d better not employ that German Jew or your business will get forcibly shut down. Don’t worry, you’re not forced to not hire him. Race is a protected class. Vaccination status without documented medical reason is not. Also, no one is forcing these businesses to shut down. They simply can't employ unvaccinated people.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    I respectfully maintain my disagreement and will not discuss it further.
  - salawat 5y ago
    >Race is a protected class. Good, then you aconowledge that discrimination on this characteristic was an act of force requiring explicit protections to be implemented to cease the practice? The poster is making the assertion that the same underlying pattern of behavior is unfolding, and your interpretation of it not being an act of force requires that your definition of "force" be so out of touch with the reality/form of life that they are invoking under the pre-supposition you both can come to an agreement on a dictionary referenced definition of the word, as to be uselessly undermined by arbitrary political distortions so as to be useless to continue trying to communicate. This is not a good sign; for anyone involved; I might add.

It isn't forced.

throwawaysea 5y ago

PierceJoy 5y ago
It's literally not forced. There are many jobs available that don't require a vaccine.

gjsman-1000 5y ago

dang 5y ago
Please stop taking HN threads further into flamewar hell. A comment like this stands out even in a thread as intense as this one. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: I also had to ask you this just recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29969188 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29969188 - and before that as well. We ban accounts that don't heed these warnings. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30226201 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30226201 for a gloss on what is intended.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  I apologize for both incidents and will try to maintain respect and provide more thoughtful comments in the future.
PierceJoy 5y ago
> Cool, imagine if I passed a law saying donate 20% of your life savings to Trump or go to jail. Don’t worry, you aren’t forced to, by that logic. But the threat of jail is actually being forced. No on is going to jail for being unvaccinated. Are you equating finding another job to being incarcerated? > Or in a more realistic world from the past, you’d better not employ that German Jew or your business will get forcibly shut down. Don’t worry, you’re not forced to not hire him. Race is a protected class. Vaccination status without documented medical reason is not. Also, no one is forcing these businesses to shut down. They simply can't employ unvaccinated people.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  I respectfully maintain my disagreement and will not discuss it further.
- salawat 5y ago
  >Race is a protected class. Good, then you aconowledge that discrimination on this characteristic was an act of force requiring explicit protections to be implemented to cease the practice? The poster is making the assertion that the same underlying pattern of behavior is unfolding, and your interpretation of it not being an act of force requires that your definition of "force" be so out of touch with the reality/form of life that they are invoking under the pre-supposition you both can come to an agreement on a dictionary referenced definition of the word, as to be uselessly undermined by arbitrary political distortions so as to be useless to continue trying to communicate. This is not a good sign; for anyone involved; I might add.