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Define “forced.” Your answer will speak volumes.

PierceJoy 5y ago
Your comment already spoke volumes. Remember when conservatives used to talk about choices having consequences? Funny how they they don’t seem to like that concept when it’s inconvenient for them.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  Choices do have consequences, but that does not mean those consequences are just, or that someone can just say those are the consequences take-it-or-suffer.
  - PierceJoy 5y ago
    Like I said, we've had vaccine and testing requirements for many jobs for decades. No one lost their mind. You are being manipulated by right wing politicians.
    - gjsman-1000 5y ago
      What we did in the past does not negate the right for anyone to be skeptical about future inventions and developments. Also, it is very presumptive of you to believe that I must listen to or am swayed by politicians to hold such beliefs.
gjsman-1000 5y ago
Okay, you’ve defined forced elsewhere: “That is not being forced. That is called choice. Choices have consequences.” That’s literally forced but in an nonviolent matter. Kind of like how people can be correctly be called “forced” to file tax returns in the US. They are forced, stop playing word games.
- pixl97 5y ago
  "Libertarians forced to use public highways. Oh the humanity"
- PierceJoy 5y ago
  I'm not familiar with the US tax laws, but in Canada if you don't file a tax return and don't owe money, there are no consequences. If you owe money, and do not pay, eventually you will end up in jail. That's actually being forced, and makes this a terrible analogy. If someone is fired from the military for not getting a non-covid vaccine, are they being forced to get the vaccine? They are not being forced. Stop playing word games.
  - dang 5y ago
    Please omit flamewar swipes from your comments here. Your comment would be fine without the last sentence. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    In the US, everyone must file a tax return if they have anything over $12,000+ in income. If you don’t, you could get arrested. That is rightfully called forced, because the threat is that you will lose your livelihood if you don’t file. Nobody would call living in jail a real choice. Similarly, if you don’t take the vaccine, you are also losing your livelihood in the military, possibly having no way to provide for your family outside the military, and this can be rightfully called forced.
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Your comment already spoke volumes. Remember when conservatives used to talk about choices having consequences? Funny how they they don’t seem to like that concept when it’s inconvenient for them.

gjsman-1000 5y ago
Choices do have consequences, but that does not mean those consequences are just, or that someone can just say those are the consequences take-it-or-suffer.
- PierceJoy 5y ago
  Like I said, we've had vaccine and testing requirements for many jobs for decades. No one lost their mind. You are being manipulated by right wing politicians.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    What we did in the past does not negate the right for anyone to be skeptical about future inventions and developments. Also, it is very presumptive of you to believe that I must listen to or am swayed by politicians to hold such beliefs.

gjsman-1000 5y ago

Okay, you’ve defined forced elsewhere: “That is not being forced. That is called choice. Choices have consequences.” That’s literally forced but in an nonviolent matter. Kind of like how people can be correctly be called “forced” to file tax returns in the US. They are forced, stop playing word games.

pixl97 5y ago
"Libertarians forced to use public highways. Oh the humanity"
PierceJoy 5y ago
I'm not familiar with the US tax laws, but in Canada if you don't file a tax return and don't owe money, there are no consequences. If you owe money, and do not pay, eventually you will end up in jail. That's actually being forced, and makes this a terrible analogy. If someone is fired from the military for not getting a non-covid vaccine, are they being forced to get the vaccine? They are not being forced. Stop playing word games.
- dang 5y ago
  Please omit flamewar swipes from your comments here. Your comment would be fine without the last sentence. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  In the US, everyone must file a tax return if they have anything over $12,000+ in income. If you don’t, you could get arrested. That is rightfully called forced, because the threat is that you will lose your livelihood if you don’t file. Nobody would call living in jail a real choice. Similarly, if you don’t take the vaccine, you are also losing your livelihood in the military, possibly having no way to provide for your family outside the military, and this can be rightfully called forced.

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