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The difference between you and the “cancel culture” is that you are a real person who exists, and “cancel culture” is an emergent phenomenon that happens on soc

The difference between you and the “cancel culture” is that you are a real person who exists, and “cancel culture” is an emergent phenomenon that happens on social media. People complaining about cancel culture is like people complaining about traffic jams. There’s no nefarious person in charge who’s trying to “cancel” things, it’s just lots and lots and lots of people and a tendency to overreact to stuff.

jakelazaroff 5y ago
> People complaining about cancel culture is like people complaining about traffic jams. This is a great analogy.
gruez 5y ago
>There’s no nefarious person in charge who’s trying to “cancel” things, it’s just lots and lots and lots of people and a tendency to overreact to stuff. There isn't? Are there not people calling for someone to be fired/resign because of some action they did?
- ninkendo 5y ago
  It’s not the same people every time. People tend to want to out-outrage one another sometimes and it sometimes it leads certain people to call for boycotting/etc, and then sometimes those movements pick up steam as people try to be “early” to a given outrage cycle. Nobody’s calling the shots here… nobody went and decided “aim the twitter outrage cannon at Joe Rogan, he ran afoul of the Cancel Culture and must atone.” It’s just a phenomenon that happens due to the tendency of humans on social media to amplify outrage rather than ignore it.
  - redbar0n 5y ago
    Hence the term «culture»… It extends far beyond social media.
  - hombre_fatal 5y ago
    I wouldn’t be so sure: https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1490220423270699009?s=21 https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/149022042327069900... The idea that nobody organizes to push around political muscle seems pretty naive, like suggesting that there are no guerilla ads on reddit.
tsol 5y ago
I think we all know what he means. He means the liberal equivalent to the "socially conservative prude". Which certainly does exist. (Also this is only tangentially related but why is being prude a bad thing? I had a female friend in high school that would get insulted for being too prude. I don't think people really realize the way these concepts get applied in reality. People are allowed to be prude just as they're allowed to be libertines.)
Grustaf 5y ago
It's not an emergent phenomenon that "just happens". It's very strongly pushed by liberal media outlets.
- ninkendo 5y ago
  Every "liberal media outlet" I've seen tends to just regurgitate opinions they see on Twitter, so I don't really understand what "pushed" means in your context. It seems more like they're amplifying existing outrage than anything.
  - Grustaf 5y ago
    Do you actually think channels like CNN get their left leaning bias from reading twitter, rather than their owners? And I suppose fox gets its bias from listening to Joe Rogan?
    - chillwaves 5y ago
      Who are the liberal owners of CNN? I thought they were all just trying to make money. Rupert Murdoch, on the other hand, has a history of running news at a loss to push his angle. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/11/rupert-murdoch-writes-down-value-of-sun-newspapers-to-zero https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/11/rupert-murdoch...
      - Grustaf 5y ago
        Ted Turner I guess, at least until now?
    - ninkendo 5y ago
      > Do you actually think channels like CNN get their left leaning bias from reading twitter, rather than their owners? That's not my claim. I'm claiming that if you actually watch CNN, they tend to literally put a camera to a big computer monitor and show you a bunch of people's tweets. I'm not talking about bias/etc here, I'm talking about how they literally feature tweets as part of their news coverage. Of the typical stories on CNN that one would qualify as "cancel culture", they typically go something like: "<Celebrity A> said a controversial thing on Twitter! Let's take a look at some of the reactions..." etc etc. Their coverage seems to be focused on "what do the people think of X", all the damned time. Yes, this makes CNN quite useless as a news organization.

jakelazaroff 5y ago

> People complaining about cancel culture is like people complaining about traffic jams. This is a great analogy.

gruez 5y ago

>There’s no nefarious person in charge who’s trying to “cancel” things, it’s just lots and lots and lots of people and a tendency to overreact to stuff. There isn't? Are there not people calling for someone to be fired/resign because of some action they did?

ninkendo 5y ago
It’s not the same people every time. People tend to want to out-outrage one another sometimes and it sometimes it leads certain people to call for boycotting/etc, and then sometimes those movements pick up steam as people try to be “early” to a given outrage cycle. Nobody’s calling the shots here… nobody went and decided “aim the twitter outrage cannon at Joe Rogan, he ran afoul of the Cancel Culture and must atone.” It’s just a phenomenon that happens due to the tendency of humans on social media to amplify outrage rather than ignore it.
- redbar0n 5y ago
  Hence the term «culture»… It extends far beyond social media.
- hombre_fatal 5y ago
  I wouldn’t be so sure: https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1490220423270699009?s=21 https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/149022042327069900... The idea that nobody organizes to push around political muscle seems pretty naive, like suggesting that there are no guerilla ads on reddit.

tsol 5y ago

I think we all know what he means. He means the liberal equivalent to the "socially conservative prude". Which certainly does exist. (Also this is only tangentially related but why is being prude a bad thing? I had a female friend in high school that would get insulted for being too prude. I don't think people really realize the way these concepts get applied in reality. People are allowed to be prude just as they're allowed to be libertines.)

Grustaf 5y ago

It's not an emergent phenomenon that "just happens". It's very strongly pushed by liberal media outlets.

ninkendo 5y ago
Every "liberal media outlet" I've seen tends to just regurgitate opinions they see on Twitter, so I don't really understand what "pushed" means in your context. It seems more like they're amplifying existing outrage than anything.
- Grustaf 5y ago
  Do you actually think channels like CNN get their left leaning bias from reading twitter, rather than their owners? And I suppose fox gets its bias from listening to Joe Rogan?
  - chillwaves 5y ago
    Who are the liberal owners of CNN? I thought they were all just trying to make money. Rupert Murdoch, on the other hand, has a history of running news at a loss to push his angle. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/11/rupert-murdoch-writes-down-value-of-sun-newspapers-to-zero https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/11/rupert-murdoch...
    - Grustaf 5y ago
      Ted Turner I guess, at least until now?
  - ninkendo 5y ago
    > Do you actually think channels like CNN get their left leaning bias from reading twitter, rather than their owners? That's not my claim. I'm claiming that if you actually watch CNN, they tend to literally put a camera to a big computer monitor and show you a bunch of people's tweets. I'm not talking about bias/etc here, I'm talking about how they literally feature tweets as part of their news coverage. Of the typical stories on CNN that one would qualify as "cancel culture", they typically go something like: "<Celebrity A> said a controversial thing on Twitter! Let's take a look at some of the reactions..." etc etc. Their coverage seems to be focused on "what do the people think of X", all the damned time. Yes, this makes CNN quite useless as a news organization.