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In fact, shouldn't it be the opposite way? Imagine getting vaxxed just so you are forced to stay home or wear a mask everywhere just like everybody else.
by iqanq 5y ago
In fact, shouldn't it be the opposite way? Imagine getting vaxxed just so you are forced to stay home or wear a mask everywhere just like everybody else.
- spookthesunset 5y agoPublic health “experts” have done very little to quell fearful vaccinated people. In my opinion some of the worst anti-vaxx propaganda comes right from these health departments. If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story.
- mcphage 5y ago> If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story. What if you have children who are not yet eligible for the vaccine?
- coryrc 5y agoChildren are not any more at risk from covid than the flu (even less, I believe) yet never before did we have these restrictions.
- yreg 5y agoHow do you know the long term effects?
- Method-X 5y agoI’m vaccinated. How do you know the long term effects of mRNA vaccines?
- yreg 5y agoThe Bayesian probability leans heavily toward the vaccine being safe and the virus dangerous. From what we are seeing the vaccine side effects are similar but considerably milder and short term, the virus sometimes has long term negative effects (lung capacity, fatigue, weakness, inability to concentrate…)
- coryrc 5y agoWe have a long history with coronaviruses. I doubt you worried about any of the others before.
- ctoth 5y agoThen you look at the data and see that: "Covid-19 has killed 280 children under 18 from January through September 2021, the time span in which the alpha and delta variants were active. Flu and pneumonia, heart disease, drowning, guns, and motor vehicles were all deadlier to children during the same time periods annually from 2015 to 2019 (the latest years with available data)[0]." [0]: https://www.vox.com/22699019/covid-19-children-kids-risk-hospitalization-death https://www.vox.com/22699019/covid-19-children-kids-risk-hos...
- lancesells 5y agoWhile I agree that it seems children are very low risk you have to remember they are partly lower because of the precautions taken(lockdowns, mandates, vaccines, masks, fear, etc). We don't know the "normal" death rate for Covid just yet.
- mcphage 5y agoHow many people have children infected, though? It doesn’t get to them and stop. Kids are very good at spreading germs.
- Method-X 5y agoCOVID is at most as dangerous as a normal cold for kids. This is a fact. It’s not even controversial.
- mcphage 5y agoChildren are good at infecting others, for whom it may not be so harmless.
- Method-X 5y agoIf an at-risk adult doesn't want to get vaccinated at this point, it's on them. Enough with this lunatic safetyism already.
- mcphage 5y agoIf you made a list off the lunatic safetyism that kids have to put up with these days, I don’t think wearing masks would even make the short list. There’s a lot.
- verve_rat 5y agoEven if you are vaccinated you can still get sick. The chances are reduced, but you can still end up in hospital, you could still die. If enough people still get sick at once there could still be a collapse in a local health system due to overloading. Given the uncertainty with new variations of COVID isn't it better to err on the side of caution and try to protect both the health systems and as many people at once?
- coryrc 5y agoAll of that was true with the flu and vaccinated people are not any more at risk from covid than flu. Why the permanent change?
- NoPie 5y agoIn fact, the UK health authorities argued that flu vaccine mandates make more sense for hospital workers than covid vaccine mandates with omicron.
- NoPie 5y agoIt all depends on what are the numbers. In any case before deciding on vaccine mandates, certain conditions have to be satisfied: 1. Will the mandate increase vaccine uptake? 2. Will the mandate prevent overloading hospitals and clinics? 3. Are the health benefits for others proportionate to the risks for vaccinated? 4. Are less restrictive policies available that can achieve similar outcomes? The UK decided to go with without vaccine mandates. They even revoked them for healthcare workers because with omicron variant they no longer made sense. I am not saying what Canada should do, but at this moment vaccine mandates don't really seem worth to truckers, if not for all people.
- Method-X 5y agoEverything you said is fantasy speculation. Counties and States that have moved on are doing just fine.
- carlivar 5y agoNo. The time for an abundance of caution was 2020. You can get vaxxed if you want and N95's are effective if you want to protect yourself. Society can't keep dragging this giant "safety" rock behind it forever.