7 ms·

Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everyth

by mdasen 5y ago

Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everything to a new service (if that service won't let you transfer it themselves). I'm using iCloud+ from Apple. It's cheap at $1/mo for 50GB of space and lets me have my custom domains. $3/mo will get you family sharing and 200GB of space (if you want multiple accounts - I just have one account with multiple domains/email addresses). Apple's email hosting is 22 years old (pre-dating Gmail by 4 years) and seems like it won't be going anywhere anytime soon. They've recently expanded their email offerings with things like "Sign In with Apple" and "Hide my Email." Zoho Mail will give you free hosting without IMAP or $1 for 5GB, $1.25 for 10GB, $3 for 30GB, $4 for 50GB, $6 for 100GB (billed annually). Microsoft 365 will cost $5.83/mo for 1 person or $8.33 for a family of 6. Each account gets 1TB of storage (6TB for the family in total) and you get all the Microsoft Office apps. One issue is that the domain needs to be with Go Daddy which ups the price a little given their premium pricing on domains which is around an extra dollar per month. FastMail is $5/mo for 30GB, $9 for 100GB. There's no magic email provider that no one ever complains about - including Google where we've heard horror stories of getting locked out with no one to even contact. It also seems like no one wants to be hosting your mail for free with IMAP support anymore (and almost no one wants to host your domain email for free generally). For me, migrating to iCloud+ was cheap and easy. I'm already on a Mac and iPhone. I set up some simple rules to filter my mail on my Mac and I'm enjoying the instant response of a native app. At $1/mo, there's no lock-in to annual billing and it basically costs nothing. Microsoft 365 seems like a good deal if you're looking for a lot of storage and Microsoft Office apps. 1TB for $5.83/mo is basically the same price per GB as Dropbox, but you're also getting mail and the Office apps.

Froedlich 5y ago
> including Google where we've heard horror stories of getting locked out with no one to even contact --- [raises hand] Been there, done that.
znpy 5y ago
> One issue is that the domain needs to be with Go Daddy Absolute dealbreaker. There's no real reason why I can't just point my MX at them, do the additional configuration[*] and have them host my mail. Any explaination would be pure (and utter) BS. [*] being setting spf, dkim records and stuff
- Pasorrijer 5y ago
  This is not accurate. I host through Site ground and have absolutely no issues setting O365 as my mail provider.
- f_ 5y ago
  I don't think this is true; I am running Microsoft 365 and use AWS Route 53 and manually set up DNS records to work with Microsoft 365 just fine.
- d000001 5y ago
  This is comparing o365 business and the personal offering. The personal/home offering requires godaddy for the domain.
Pasorrijer 5y ago
Not true. You can host through any provider and link it to Office365.
- mdasen 5y ago
  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/get-a-personalized-email-address-in-microsoft-365-75416a58-b225-4c02-8c07-8979403b427b https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/get-a-personalize... Q: I already own a domain that's registered with a provider other than GoDaddy. Can I set up a personalized email address in Outlook.com? A: At the moment, we only support connecting domains managed by GoDaddy with Outlook.com. Maybe that only applies to "Microsoft 365 Family or Microsoft 365 Personal" and not their business offering? They have a basic business offering for $5/mo, but it doesn't include the Office apps (just the online versions). EDIT: It looks like non-GoDaddy is for business/enterprise plans: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/admin/setup/add-domain?view=o365-worldwide https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/admin/setup/a...
  - EwanToo 5y ago
    If you do some googling you can find forum posts on how to do it manually, though I've not tried it myself
    - larrybud 5y ago
      An earlier post shared this https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/ft15pk/use_personalized_domain_with_outlook_and_office/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/ft15pk/use_perso...
    - Godel_unicode 5y ago
      The manual workarounds are to do things like disabling SPF, which is a very bad idea.
  - matheweis 5y ago
    The non-GoDaddy workaround from the adjacent reddit link works fine, not sure why the sibling comments have been downvoted so hard. The reply to that about the workarounds disabling spf is wrong, at least for the adjacent reddit link. It includes relevant spf records and they appear to work fine. I’ve been hosting my custom domain on the personal office 365 / outlook.com using these workarounds for a couple of weeks now and so far it has been working just fine. Ideally dmarc and dkim would be supported, but it’s worth noting that it appear that neither of those are supported by the personal office 365 / outlook.com plan even with GoDaddy.
nodesocket 5y ago
Is iCloud+ IMAP/Push?
- gumby 5y ago
  Yes and has been since it was introduced. Unlike gmail they appear to implement the full imap protocol
voisin 5y ago
I just did the Gmail —> iCloud transition and was frustrated that the MBOX format failed to maintain labels / folders. Everything went into a single place. On researching it seemed like the best process was to set up two IMAP accounts in Apple Mail and simply drag and drop the directories. I’ve done this, but it is still a pain and took 100x longer than I expected.
- concinds 5y ago
  I really don't recommend doing that with Apple Mail. I did, many years ago, and ended up losing quite a few emails due to Apple Mail bugs; I did it again a few years later and ended up with weird corruption of email headers (wrong "received" dates). That was way before the Catalina Apple Mail data loss bugs. https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/10/11/mail-data-loss-in-macos-10-15/ https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/10/11/mail-data-loss-in-macos-1... Any sysadmin will tell you Apple Mail has had occasional weird dogshit bugs for a decade. Use Thunderbird, it's more likely to be robust and not corrupt your emails, then feel free to switch back to Apple Mail once you've moved everything.
  - crossroadsguy 5y ago
    Huh it’ll start showing empty mails that’s full of text in other mail clients and web mail. It’s been happening since 2016 (first time I noticed) and last reporter to them in January 2021. Then I gave up. It still happens. Anyway that’s just one immortal Mail.app bug. I am just in the process of finding another mail client (preferably native, paid, and open source that doesn’t read my mails)
- Saris 5y ago
  Mailstores free home version works pretty well for this. You can backup your IMAP account in it, and then it has the option to export that archive to another IMAP account. It does retain folder/label structure (although it places them under a parent "Mailstore" label, but that's easy to fix after). It will also read EML, MSG, PST, and MBOX formats, and connect to Outlook and Thunderbird. https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/ https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/
- 5y ago
SmellTheGlove 5y ago
Oh wow I had no idea I could use a custom domain with iCloud, and I'm already paying for the 2TB tier and family sharing. Thanks!
jread 5y ago
+1 for iCloud+. I moved 3 business/family domains and shutdown my G Suite legacy account with no issues, and no extra cost (already paying for iCloud). Can't beat $0.99/mo for 50GB shared on up to 6 accounts.
- skydhash 5y ago
  +1 for iCloud+. I got the 200 to give my cousin a way to backup her pictures (around 30 GB, and it annoyed me she wasn't backing them up) The custom domain was nice, and I moved all of them to iCloud+.
  - infinityplus1 5y ago
    You might want to read this reddit post about iCloud files disappearing. https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/sixyvx/warning_files_on_icloud_drive_are_not_safe/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/sixyvx/warning_files...
    - hughrr 5y ago
      Just a heads up here: iCloud / OneDrive / Google Drive / DropBox are not a backup solution despite the vendors promoting it. They are there only for convenience. I have experienced file loss on OneDrive. I am now using iCloud and have had no file loss whatsoever. I regularly diff my offline backup with iCloud Drive contents mirrored to my mac. Also to note: About 50% of the stories you hear are users being morons. My sister lost some files. She deleted them after fat fingering something and blamed the cloud vendor (Google). It happens. Make sure you back up stuff separately and fully offline. You’re just as fucked if someone rips off your account.
      - kingcharles 5y ago
        > Also to note: About 50% of the stories you hear are users being morons. My sister lost some files. She deleted them after fat fingering something Some of these services (e.g. Dropbox) have rollback which would have helped in this situation, and most have a "Rubbish Bin" you can undelete from. I often click on the wrong thing because the web UI is lagging and I delete something by mistake. I agree these services right now are all for convenience. There are horror stories from all of them, except for rsync (who are active on here) - I've never heard of any horror stories from their cloud service, but obviously if your payment stops for whatever reason, then all your stuff is gone with any of these.
sgloutnikov 5y ago
Here is a workaround for Microsoft 365 to not host your domain with GoDaddy. https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/ft15pk/use_personalized_domain_with_outlook_and_office/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/ft15pk/use_perso...
- RKearney 5y ago
  That "workaround" instructs you to use "v=DMARC1; p=none;" for your dmarc record. I'm not sure if Microsoft actually requires this, maybe it's because it doesn't support DKIM, but setting your dmarc policy to none disables SPF checks and is an extremely bad idea.
mxrlkn 5y ago
I just switched to iCloud as well, but I want all my email forwarded to my private gmail account. One thing to be aware of with iCloud is that it doesn't do ARC, so your forwarded emails will fail on SPF. I instead use cloudflare's email forwarding for incoming email, which does support ARC, and then iCloud for outgoing. Works well so far.
- gst 5y ago
  Are you sure that Cloudflare supports ARC? Last time I checked they used SRS for sender rewriting (that's why SPF doesn't fail), but didn't support ARC yet.
  - mxrlkn 5y ago
    There's ARC headers on the emails I get forwarded, so looks like it. I don't know about SRS.
nachteilig 5y ago
Does iCloud+ support catch all on custom domains now? I really like this about Google but would also be glad to go elsewhere
- dan_wood 5y ago
  No they don’t and it’s a maximum of three email addresses per user. Looking at it they don’t allow for “groups” or aliases either. It feels years behind.
  - hughrr 5y ago
    It has only just been rolled out. I think it’s still early days. I’m using it for my domain fine but that has only two users on it.
    - dan_wood 5y ago
      You’re right it’s only just been rolled out but it’s missing so much fundamental stuff.. I want to make the switch, but I can’t yet. The lack of email lists “groups” is just holding me back. I have about 20 of them. I also have about 15 aliases… It feels like it’s the beginning of Email…
lewisl9029 5y ago
An alternative to Microsoft 365 if you don't need anything other than email hosting is their Exchange Online plan, which is $4/month: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/exchange/exchange-online https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/exchange/excha... This is what I ended up switching to and it's been working fine so far. I learned from this debacle that tight-coupling email to any other service is a liability, so email-only is actually a feature for me. No GoDaddy requirement either.
- jnieminen 5y ago
  I would spent a little more and the the Business Basic plan. I think it is quite a good deal. https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-365/business/microsoft-365-business-basic https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-365/business/micro...
  - mongol 5y ago
    I will use that I think. It is a bonus to get some web Office apps in addition.
- indigodaddy 5y ago
  I thought Outlook.com email was free ? Or is that something completely different or a different class tier that isn’t included in these discussions for whatever reason?
  - patja 5y ago
    I think this discussion is just about email using your own domain.
woodson 5y ago
Does iCloud+ with custom domains support adding labels, e.g. youremail+label@domain.com?
- thebankfarter 5y ago
  Yes. It does
crossroadsguy 5y ago
If you want to try Apple’s: I have tried the iCloud+. It’s unstable, incomplete. Barely not shitty. Deliberately sparsely and vaguely documented. Their support employees don’t know the features around custom domain, HideMyEmail etc and refuse to accept anything about it on email and then being typical Apple they simply say no to saying anything on email - hell, there is no email you can contact them. They tell you “yes, this is the behaviour” on phone. They tell you “there is not documentation for it yet”, they refuse to say this on email. There is no email address you can write to. “No there is no other escalation or contact”. Trust me it’s a nightmare. You hate Gmail not having human support? You’ll start appreciating Gmail’s no support when you will actually be talking to Apple’s support human being bots who will make you feel like hitting your head against the wall at least 7 times per 10 minutes while maintaining complete corporate composure and plastic professionalism. If you want to use HideMyEmail it’ll be not on your domain. It’ll be locked to the subdomain (@privaterelay.appleid.com) of a company that’s the biggest walled garden this planet has ever seen and so powerful that it can just delete your account and you can do jackshit about it - yes, they have done it. The typical “find a connected employee at Google” also doesn’t work. There’s not even catch-all. Max three emails. Do yourself a favour and a get a real and dedicated mail provider like Mailbox, Fastmail etc because even after being few years older than Gmail iCloud mail is much much much worse. Besides unless you’re also sunk in the walled garden up until your ears or maybe forehead you won’t be able to use 99.12% of iCloud+ anyway (Or maybe nothing if you stop using fruit company devices. I am not even sure and couldn’t figure out from their documentation and support) Edit: Wow! Fruit company fans already at their downvoting game! Amazing! Ffs, if possible try to pull the fan part of that brain out of the place where sun never shines? I am also a “user” of Apple device(s), just not a “fan”. But it explains how yesterday there was a sub thread (on payment cut thread) how Apple fans give a pass to Apple for everything shitty and evil like feckless apologist drones.
- bmarquez 5y ago
  So I made the switch from G Suite Legacy to iCloud+ (99 cents seemed like a bargain to try out) and it has a few kinks to work out. Their documentation put double-quotes around the SPF records, and when I added them they didn't work -- had to remove the quotes completely. And yeah, 3 email address limit and a weak icloud.com interface (compared to gmail) is also annoying. But honestly I'll probably use it for a while, their IMAP support is good so I could always transfer emails out and point the domain records somewhere else. 99 cents a month is a bargain, the only other provider in that price range is Zoho Mail (which I also like and probably would have used if my contacts/calendar wasn't already on iCloud). > @privaterelay.appleid.com The @privaterelay.appleid.com is for email addresses that were created by using "Sign in with Apple", you don't have to pay for iCloud+ for that. If you create disposable emails with iCloud+ they come in the form: Coconut-Apple.0b@icloud.com (the words, numbers, and separators are random)
hammyhavoc 5y ago
Yandex will do it for free up to 1,000 users.
- indigodaddy 5y ago
  I use Yandex. Not a heavy user, but perfectly happy with it.
  - hammyhavoc 5y ago
    Interestingly, I just went to register an organization on Yandex, and I'm forced to provide biz info now, including a TIN, seems like it's now inappropriate for families. Can anyone confirm this for me? Their FAQ also states that it is only available for non-Russian residents that are businesses. Urgh.
s0rce 5y ago
I just moved my domain email over to Zoho following this news ($1/mo, was easy to set up). Seems to be working. Didn't feel like paying Google $6/mo.
- GFischer 5y ago
  I've been using Zoho for several years and I've been very happy. Only had 1 major outage (which was a bummer, to be honest) and I think they've improved their redundancy and reliability since.
- rdtwo 5y ago
  Zoho has been great really happy with their setup

by mdasen 5y ago

Froedlich 5y ago

> including Google where we've heard horror stories of getting locked out with no one to even contact --- [raises hand] Been there, done that.

znpy 5y ago

> One issue is that the domain needs to be with Go Daddy Absolute dealbreaker. There's no real reason why I can't just point my MX at them, do the additional configuration[*] and have them host my mail. Any explaination would be pure (and utter) BS. [*] being setting spf, dkim records and stuff

Pasorrijer 5y ago
This is not accurate. I host through Site ground and have absolutely no issues setting O365 as my mail provider.
f_ 5y ago
I don't think this is true; I am running Microsoft 365 and use AWS Route 53 and manually set up DNS records to work with Microsoft 365 just fine.
d000001 5y ago
This is comparing o365 business and the personal offering. The personal/home offering requires godaddy for the domain.

Pasorrijer 5y ago

Not true. You can host through any provider and link it to Office365.

mdasen 5y ago
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/get-a-personalized-email-address-in-microsoft-365-75416a58-b225-4c02-8c07-8979403b427b https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/get-a-personalize... Q: I already own a domain that's registered with a provider other than GoDaddy. Can I set up a personalized email address in Outlook.com? A: At the moment, we only support connecting domains managed by GoDaddy with Outlook.com. Maybe that only applies to "Microsoft 365 Family or Microsoft 365 Personal" and not their business offering? They have a basic business offering for $5/mo, but it doesn't include the Office apps (just the online versions). EDIT: It looks like non-GoDaddy is for business/enterprise plans: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/admin/setup/add-domain?view=o365-worldwide https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/admin/setup/a...
- EwanToo 5y ago
  If you do some googling you can find forum posts on how to do it manually, though I've not tried it myself
  - larrybud 5y ago
    An earlier post shared this https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/ft15pk/use_personalized_domain_with_outlook_and_office/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/ft15pk/use_perso...
  - Godel_unicode 5y ago
    The manual workarounds are to do things like disabling SPF, which is a very bad idea.
- matheweis 5y ago
  The non-GoDaddy workaround from the adjacent reddit link works fine, not sure why the sibling comments have been downvoted so hard. The reply to that about the workarounds disabling spf is wrong, at least for the adjacent reddit link. It includes relevant spf records and they appear to work fine. I’ve been hosting my custom domain on the personal office 365 / outlook.com using these workarounds for a couple of weeks now and so far it has been working just fine. Ideally dmarc and dkim would be supported, but it’s worth noting that it appear that neither of those are supported by the personal office 365 / outlook.com plan even with GoDaddy.

nodesocket 5y ago

Is iCloud+ IMAP/Push?

gumby 5y ago
Yes and has been since it was introduced. Unlike gmail they appear to implement the full imap protocol

voisin 5y ago

I just did the Gmail —> iCloud transition and was frustrated that the MBOX format failed to maintain labels / folders. Everything went into a single place. On researching it seemed like the best process was to set up two IMAP accounts in Apple Mail and simply drag and drop the directories. I’ve done this, but it is still a pain and took 100x longer than I expected.

concinds 5y ago
I really don't recommend doing that with Apple Mail. I did, many years ago, and ended up losing quite a few emails due to Apple Mail bugs; I did it again a few years later and ended up with weird corruption of email headers (wrong "received" dates). That was way before the Catalina Apple Mail data loss bugs. https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/10/11/mail-data-loss-in-macos-10-15/ https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/10/11/mail-data-loss-in-macos-1... Any sysadmin will tell you Apple Mail has had occasional weird dogshit bugs for a decade. Use Thunderbird, it's more likely to be robust and not corrupt your emails, then feel free to switch back to Apple Mail once you've moved everything.
- crossroadsguy 5y ago
  Huh it’ll start showing empty mails that’s full of text in other mail clients and web mail. It’s been happening since 2016 (first time I noticed) and last reporter to them in January 2021. Then I gave up. It still happens. Anyway that’s just one immortal Mail.app bug. I am just in the process of finding another mail client (preferably native, paid, and open source that doesn’t read my mails)
Saris 5y ago
Mailstores free home version works pretty well for this. You can backup your IMAP account in it, and then it has the option to export that archive to another IMAP account. It does retain folder/label structure (although it places them under a parent "Mailstore" label, but that's easy to fix after). It will also read EML, MSG, PST, and MBOX formats, and connect to Outlook and Thunderbird. https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/ https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/
5y ago

SmellTheGlove 5y ago

Oh wow I had no idea I could use a custom domain with iCloud, and I'm already paying for the 2TB tier and family sharing. Thanks!

jread 5y ago

+1 for iCloud+. I moved 3 business/family domains and shutdown my G Suite legacy account with no issues, and no extra cost (already paying for iCloud). Can't beat $0.99/mo for 50GB shared on up to 6 accounts.

skydhash 5y ago
+1 for iCloud+. I got the 200 to give my cousin a way to backup her pictures (around 30 GB, and it annoyed me she wasn't backing them up) The custom domain was nice, and I moved all of them to iCloud+.
- infinityplus1 5y ago
  You might want to read this reddit post about iCloud files disappearing. https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/sixyvx/warning_files_on_icloud_drive_are_not_safe/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/sixyvx/warning_files...
  - hughrr 5y ago
    Just a heads up here: iCloud / OneDrive / Google Drive / DropBox are not a backup solution despite the vendors promoting it. They are there only for convenience. I have experienced file loss on OneDrive. I am now using iCloud and have had no file loss whatsoever. I regularly diff my offline backup with iCloud Drive contents mirrored to my mac. Also to note: About 50% of the stories you hear are users being morons. My sister lost some files. She deleted them after fat fingering something and blamed the cloud vendor (Google). It happens. Make sure you back up stuff separately and fully offline. You’re just as fucked if someone rips off your account.
    - kingcharles 5y ago
      > Also to note: About 50% of the stories you hear are users being morons. My sister lost some files. She deleted them after fat fingering something Some of these services (e.g. Dropbox) have rollback which would have helped in this situation, and most have a "Rubbish Bin" you can undelete from. I often click on the wrong thing because the web UI is lagging and I delete something by mistake. I agree these services right now are all for convenience. There are horror stories from all of them, except for rsync (who are active on here) - I've never heard of any horror stories from their cloud service, but obviously if your payment stops for whatever reason, then all your stuff is gone with any of these.

sgloutnikov 5y ago

Here is a workaround for Microsoft 365 to not host your domain with GoDaddy. https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/ft15pk/use_personalized_domain_with_outlook_and_office/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/ft15pk/use_perso...

RKearney 5y ago
That "workaround" instructs you to use "v=DMARC1; p=none;" for your dmarc record. I'm not sure if Microsoft actually requires this, maybe it's because it doesn't support DKIM, but setting your dmarc policy to none disables SPF checks and is an extremely bad idea.

mxrlkn 5y ago

I just switched to iCloud as well, but I want all my email forwarded to my private gmail account. One thing to be aware of with iCloud is that it doesn't do ARC, so your forwarded emails will fail on SPF. I instead use cloudflare's email forwarding for incoming email, which does support ARC, and then iCloud for outgoing. Works well so far.

gst 5y ago
Are you sure that Cloudflare supports ARC? Last time I checked they used SRS for sender rewriting (that's why SPF doesn't fail), but didn't support ARC yet.
- mxrlkn 5y ago
  There's ARC headers on the emails I get forwarded, so looks like it. I don't know about SRS.

nachteilig 5y ago

Does iCloud+ support catch all on custom domains now? I really like this about Google but would also be glad to go elsewhere

dan_wood 5y ago
No they don’t and it’s a maximum of three email addresses per user. Looking at it they don’t allow for “groups” or aliases either. It feels years behind.
- hughrr 5y ago
  It has only just been rolled out. I think it’s still early days. I’m using it for my domain fine but that has only two users on it.
  - dan_wood 5y ago
    You’re right it’s only just been rolled out but it’s missing so much fundamental stuff.. I want to make the switch, but I can’t yet. The lack of email lists “groups” is just holding me back. I have about 20 of them. I also have about 15 aliases… It feels like it’s the beginning of Email…

lewisl9029 5y ago

An alternative to Microsoft 365 if you don't need anything other than email hosting is their Exchange Online plan, which is $4/month: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/exchange/exchange-online https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/exchange/excha... This is what I ended up switching to and it's been working fine so far. I learned from this debacle that tight-coupling email to any other service is a liability, so email-only is actually a feature for me. No GoDaddy requirement either.

jnieminen 5y ago
I would spent a little more and the the Business Basic plan. I think it is quite a good deal. https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-365/business/microsoft-365-business-basic https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-365/business/micro...
- mongol 5y ago
  I will use that I think. It is a bonus to get some web Office apps in addition.
indigodaddy 5y ago
I thought Outlook.com email was free ? Or is that something completely different or a different class tier that isn’t included in these discussions for whatever reason?
- patja 5y ago
  I think this discussion is just about email using your own domain.

woodson 5y ago

Does iCloud+ with custom domains support adding labels, e.g. youremail+label@domain.com?

thebankfarter 5y ago
Yes. It does

crossroadsguy 5y ago

If you want to try Apple’s: I have tried the iCloud+. It’s unstable, incomplete. Barely not shitty. Deliberately sparsely and vaguely documented. Their support employees don’t know the features around custom domain, HideMyEmail etc and refuse to accept anything about it on email and then being typical Apple they simply say no to saying anything on email - hell, there is no email you can contact them. They tell you “yes, this is the behaviour” on phone. They tell you “there is not documentation for it yet”, they refuse to say this on email. There is no email address you can write to. “No there is no other escalation or contact”. Trust me it’s a nightmare. You hate Gmail not having human support? You’ll start appreciating Gmail’s no support when you will actually be talking to Apple’s support human being bots who will make you feel like hitting your head against the wall at least 7 times per 10 minutes while maintaining complete corporate composure and plastic professionalism. If you want to use HideMyEmail it’ll be not on your domain. It’ll be locked to the subdomain (@privaterelay.appleid.com) of a company that’s the biggest walled garden this planet has ever seen and so powerful that it can just delete your account and you can do jackshit about it - yes, they have done it. The typical “find a connected employee at Google” also doesn’t work. There’s not even catch-all. Max three emails. Do yourself a favour and a get a real and dedicated mail provider like Mailbox, Fastmail etc because even after being few years older than Gmail iCloud mail is much much much worse. Besides unless you’re also sunk in the walled garden up until your ears or maybe forehead you won’t be able to use 99.12% of iCloud+ anyway (Or maybe nothing if you stop using fruit company devices. I am not even sure and couldn’t figure out from their documentation and support) Edit: Wow! Fruit company fans already at their downvoting game! Amazing! Ffs, if possible try to pull the fan part of that brain out of the place where sun never shines? I am also a “user” of Apple device(s), just not a “fan”. But it explains how yesterday there was a sub thread (on payment cut thread) how Apple fans give a pass to Apple for everything shitty and evil like feckless apologist drones.

bmarquez 5y ago
So I made the switch from G Suite Legacy to iCloud+ (99 cents seemed like a bargain to try out) and it has a few kinks to work out. Their documentation put double-quotes around the SPF records, and when I added them they didn't work -- had to remove the quotes completely. And yeah, 3 email address limit and a weak icloud.com interface (compared to gmail) is also annoying. But honestly I'll probably use it for a while, their IMAP support is good so I could always transfer emails out and point the domain records somewhere else. 99 cents a month is a bargain, the only other provider in that price range is Zoho Mail (which I also like and probably would have used if my contacts/calendar wasn't already on iCloud). > @privaterelay.appleid.com The @privaterelay.appleid.com is for email addresses that were created by using "Sign in with Apple", you don't have to pay for iCloud+ for that. If you create disposable emails with iCloud+ they come in the form: Coconut-Apple.0b@icloud.com (the words, numbers, and separators are random)

hammyhavoc 5y ago

Yandex will do it for free up to 1,000 users.

indigodaddy 5y ago
I use Yandex. Not a heavy user, but perfectly happy with it.
- hammyhavoc 5y ago
  Interestingly, I just went to register an organization on Yandex, and I'm forced to provide biz info now, including a TIN, seems like it's now inappropriate for families. Can anyone confirm this for me? Their FAQ also states that it is only available for non-Russian residents that are businesses. Urgh.

s0rce 5y ago

I just moved my domain email over to Zoho following this news ($1/mo, was easy to set up). Seems to be working. Didn't feel like paying Google $6/mo.

GFischer 5y ago
I've been using Zoho for several years and I've been very happy. Only had 1 major outage (which was a bummer, to be honest) and I think they've improved their redundancy and reliability since.
rdtwo 5y ago
Zoho has been great really happy with their setup