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They do not decide on NATO or EU membership. They can only decide if the country should apply, but NATO is not obliged to serve them Article 5. Exactly because
by ivan_gammel 5y ago
They do not decide on NATO or EU membership. They can only decide if the country should apply, but NATO is not obliged to serve them Article 5. Exactly because of that there can be actually a multilateral security agreement between NATO, Ukraine and Russia that could include non-expansion of NATO in exchange for some other, rock solid security guarantees. Same with EU membership: it can be a multilateral trade deal instead between EU, EAEU and Ukraine.
- stickfigure 5y agoMy ex-wife does not get to decide if she dates someone else; she only decides if she can ask. The other man is not obligated to say yes. If you're not a citizen of Ukraine, it's none of your business. Maybe if you didn't keep beating her bloody you'd have a better relationship?
- ivan_gammel 5y agoAs German taxpayer, investor and energy consumer I care a lot where my money go and you should not tell me what is my business.
- stickfigure 5y ago
- ivan_gammel 5y agoI do not think personal attacks have any place on this forum. In any case, your conclusion is rather primitive and lacks any depth. I do not support the idea of expansion of NATO, military help to Ukraine or the idea of imminent war that may soon happen. This however does not mean I’m taking side of aggressor here. It’s just that those ideas are counterproductive and dangerous. They do not help to bring peace. Instead they will cement the Putin‘s rule, enable Ukrainian far right groups to advance further their agenda and make peaceful solution more distant than ever. Americans should really get out of European politics and rely more on judgment of their partners. Their muscle power is no longer desirable way to handle security topics here.